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Old 10-27-2009, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by AirWillie View Post
Your continued meaningless bashing does no good to anyone. And by the way we don't fly 70 seats.
so why did you constantly bash GoJet before you got a job there???
Gonna answer this one or run away for a few days on the down low?
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:14 AM
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I did a little number crunching from pay scales listed here on APC. This should shed some light on the which regional pays the least or "50 seat pay for 70 seat planes".

Below is the average 70-90 seat FO pay over a 5 year period (excluding Horizon).
ASA – 36.20
Sky West – 36.2
Comair – 34.40
Eagle – 34.20
Compass – 34.20
Pinnacle – 33.80
Republic – 32.80
PSA – 32.60
Gojet – 31.40
Mesaba – 31.20
Mesa – 30.4
Lynx – 27.40
Colgan – 26.20
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by flyvne1971 View Post
I did a little number crunching from pay scales listed here on APC. This should shed some light on the which regional pays the least or "50 seat pay for 70 seat planes".

Below is the average 70-90 seat FO pay over a 5 year period (excluding Horizon).
ASA – 36.20
Sky West – 36.2
Comair – 34.40
Eagle – 34.20
Compass – 34.20
Pinnacle – 33.80
Republic – 32.80
PSA – 32.60
Gojet – 31.40
Mesaba – 31.20
Mesa – 30.4
Lynx – 27.40
Colgan – 26.20
I did Horizon for you, they offer $41 average over that same 5 year period for their CR7s. Man I wish I had heard back from them when I was applying. They are truly embarassing the rest of us. Horizon or better pay rates should be the goal we are all shooting for with our CR7s, CR9s, Q-400s, E-70s, etc. Jet Blue or better is what RAH should be shooting for when they negotiate the E-190 pay scale. It's a bad situation management has made for them but at least they will all be on one list (including YX, F9, and Lynx). Could you imagine how much worse of a negotiating position they would all be in if Shuttle had to compete to beat out Republic for the E-90s? Talk about a bad situation being made worse. I guess we'll see that nightmare scenario pretty soon when Hulas is trying to decide who gets the 50 96 seat MRJs.
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Old 10-27-2009, 01:25 PM
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You have stated that TSA failed to secure the flying. Everyone knows and is also documented that they were trying to negotiate for better than 50 seat rate on a 70 seat aircraft.

So would you take substandard wages to secure flying for gojets? Would you fly a 190 for 70 seat wages just to make sure you got the flying?
No it was more like Mesa CRJ7 pay pre 08 ta. And no it's not a 70 seat aircraft. The issue with what they were saying was the language in the contract that was favorable towards GJ as well as furloughs. Whatever that means considering the state of TSA currently.

As far as the 190, I would not LIKE to have have 70 seat pay. As far as the GJ, yes I would, because you can't negotiate anything unless you have the airframes you see.... you can't change the way the owner does business especially when you know your contract is full of outs. Ask Mesa guys during freedom, ask RAH pilots when they were uniting their certificates with 30 dollar pay for 99 seaters. There is no conspiracy out there, it's just business. We all would like to work for 100 bucks an hour in a perfect world.
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Old 10-27-2009, 01:35 PM
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...still avoiding the question.

FAIL.
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Old 10-27-2009, 01:45 PM
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...still avoiding the question.

FAIL.
What question?
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Old 10-27-2009, 01:48 PM
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Are you even reading this thread?
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Old 10-27-2009, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by IBPilot View Post
so why did you constantly bash GoJet before you got a job there???
Gonna answer this one or run away for a few days on the down low?
Originally Posted by Positive_Rate View Post
...still avoiding the question.

FAIL.
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What question?

hmm I'm thinking the same question that at least 20 people have asked you over the past 8 months that you never answer, even though we all know the answer to it anyways.
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Originally Posted by Positive_Rate View Post
Are you even reading this thread?
Are you reading this thread? Oh thanks mooney. I've answerd that many times including on this thread start from page one and see if you can find it...
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Old 10-27-2009, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Positive_Rate View Post
Are you even reading this thread?
he never reads. Just preaches to help himself sleep better at night.
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