GoJet Embarassment
#61
Ya cause you were born knowing the in's and out's outta every airport you operate into from day 1....
#62
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Just had to bump this......
In DTW earlier, GoJet was trying to get to the 22L deice pad, so they felt the need to make the right turn into 2N right into the ramp....as we were trying to taxi out. Good thing there was just enough room to have them turn in, and go right back out.
We contact ground, and ground tells us to follow them to the deice pad. I reply back with "We'll follow them, hopefully they know where they are going." Well sure as crap, they go right by the deice pad and continue to taxi. Ground yells at them to stop immediately.
Nothing like a comical fun this morning.
In DTW earlier, GoJet was trying to get to the 22L deice pad, so they felt the need to make the right turn into 2N right into the ramp....as we were trying to taxi out. Good thing there was just enough room to have them turn in, and go right back out.
We contact ground, and ground tells us to follow them to the deice pad. I reply back with "We'll follow them, hopefully they know where they are going." Well sure as crap, they go right by the deice pad and continue to taxi. Ground yells at them to stop immediately.
Nothing like a comical fun this morning.
Were you born with inertial navigation in your brain making you superior to all??? Glad to see you find comedy in guys doing the best they can.
#65
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There would defiantly be more than a few failed CRJ Orals in this thread.
The only time single engine your going to have a fuel imbalance problem, is if auto x flow is inhibited or mel'd, while running single engine.
In which case single engine taxi will lead to a rapid imbalance, counter-intuitively dumping the excess fuel into the operating engines side (someone actually said it correctly than got called out as being incorrect).
The most likely scenario to get to an extreme imbalance, is to inhibit fuel cross flow on your before take off checklist (2engines), and then subsequently have your clearance cancelled go into a ground stop and go back to single engine forgetting to reselect auto x flow. It will happen fast and become quickly imbalanced.
Same thing can happen with the Mel if you don't heed the warning and decide to taxi out single engine with auto x flow disabled/mel'd, a rapid imbalance.
Other than that the auto cross flow works pretty well as long as its on.
The only time single engine your going to have a fuel imbalance problem, is if auto x flow is inhibited or mel'd, while running single engine.
In which case single engine taxi will lead to a rapid imbalance, counter-intuitively dumping the excess fuel into the operating engines side (someone actually said it correctly than got called out as being incorrect).
The most likely scenario to get to an extreme imbalance, is to inhibit fuel cross flow on your before take off checklist (2engines), and then subsequently have your clearance cancelled go into a ground stop and go back to single engine forgetting to reselect auto x flow. It will happen fast and become quickly imbalanced.
Same thing can happen with the Mel if you don't heed the warning and decide to taxi out single engine with auto x flow disabled/mel'd, a rapid imbalance.
Other than that the auto cross flow works pretty well as long as its on.
#66
I had a GoJets jumpseater last night and she showed me her schedule. Can someone explain to me how the block for the month can be higher than the credit? She said they constantly fight payroll for trying to screw them, have to pay claim all day sits, fight over perdiem, etc. How embarrassing.
#67
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I'm glad it comes sooo naturally to you bud, but DTW is not the easiest place to taxi around, especially if you're not there on a very regular basis. The actual operation looks significantly different than the Jepp diagram and lots of crews can experience a missed turn or temporary disorientation. I've seen more than one Delta main liner do the Exact same thing.
Were you born with inertial navigation in your brain making you superior to all??? Glad to see you find comedy in guys doing the best they can.
Were you born with inertial navigation in your brain making you superior to all??? Glad to see you find comedy in guys doing the best they can.
I only see ORD about 3-4 times a year, and guess what? I've never once had an issue there finding a taxi way or where I'm suppose to go, even in a crap storm.
I can understand missing 1 turn, but turning onto the WRONG taxi way that is AWAY from the deicing equipment, then blocking operations, then finally figuring out where you're suppose to go and then going RIGHT past that spot is beyond excusable.
And hey, when someone crashes a plane because they weren't sure what they were doing and kills 69 people, I guess you can just chalk it up to "they were just doing the best they can."
#68
There would defiantly be more than a few failed CRJ Orals in this thread.
The only time single engine your going to have a fuel imbalance problem, is if auto x flow is inhibited or mel'd, while running single engine.
In which case single engine taxi will lead to a rapid imbalance, counter-intuitively dumping the excess fuel into the operating engines side (someone actually said it correctly than got called out as being incorrect).
The most likely scenario to get to an extreme imbalance, is to inhibit fuel cross flow on your before take off checklist (2engines), and then subsequently have your clearance cancelled go into a ground stop and go back to single engine forgetting to reselect auto x flow. It will happen fast and become quickly imbalanced.
Same thing can happen with the Mel if you don't heed the warning and decide to taxi out single engine with auto x flow disabled/mel'd, a rapid imbalance.
Other than that the auto cross flow works pretty well as long as its on.
The only time single engine your going to have a fuel imbalance problem, is if auto x flow is inhibited or mel'd, while running single engine.
In which case single engine taxi will lead to a rapid imbalance, counter-intuitively dumping the excess fuel into the operating engines side (someone actually said it correctly than got called out as being incorrect).
The most likely scenario to get to an extreme imbalance, is to inhibit fuel cross flow on your before take off checklist (2engines), and then subsequently have your clearance cancelled go into a ground stop and go back to single engine forgetting to reselect auto x flow. It will happen fast and become quickly imbalanced.
Same thing can happen with the Mel if you don't heed the warning and decide to taxi out single engine with auto x flow disabled/mel'd, a rapid imbalance.
Other than that the auto cross flow works pretty well as long as its on.
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I'm glad it comes sooo naturally to you bud, but DTW is not the easiest place to taxi around, especially if you're not there on a very regular basis. The actual operation looks significantly different than the Jepp diagram and lots of crews can experience a missed turn or temporary disorientation. I've seen more than one Delta main liner do the Exact same thing.
Were you born with inertial navigation in your brain making you superior to all??? Glad to see you find comedy in guys doing the best they can.
Were you born with inertial navigation in your brain making you superior to all??? Glad to see you find comedy in guys doing the best they can.
Its not a generalization if its true. Just like our MEC made it near impossible for anyone else to negotiate a good contract.
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