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Undrfly 03-16-2014 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by SimJumpSeat (Post 1603529)
So, does this mean "mainline" will be flying DFW to Waco & DFW to Texarkana, etc?

Think again.....the RJ model is here to stay.

Your right there will always be RJ's. Be it in the air or in the desert, there will always be RJ's. There might just be a lot less in operation. Regionals will shrink, people will go back to driving the 2,3, or 4 hours to the airport that they used to. And eventually mainline could stabilize as more rules and regulations evolve.

jaded 03-16-2014 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by ClarenceOver (Post 1603574)
If the planes fly whether they are empty or full how is lakes not going to be around?Isn't the goverment throwing away tax payers money to have service to their city and it doesn't matter if the plane has passengers or not? I thought thats what an EAS route was....

You are correct on the EAS part and the airplanes flying empty without passengers part. But last I checked, airplanes don't fly empty without pilots.

ftrflyboy 03-17-2014 05:28 AM

You must have a DUI or some violations on your record if you are seriously considering these two bottom feeder airlines. Everyone...EVERYONE is hiring right now! Go to a place that has a good contract in place and do your time to upgrade or move to a major.

pagey 03-17-2014 05:42 AM


Originally Posted by ftrflyboy (Post 1603868)
You must have a DUI or some violations on your record if you are seriously considering these two bottom feeder airlines. Everyone...EVERYONE is hiring right now! Go to a place that has a good contract in place and do your time to upgrade or move to a major.

Did you read this thread at all?

"Do your time to upgrade"? What does that even mean? You think sitting in the right seat for 8 years is acceptable because you are "doing your time"?

PurdueFlyer 03-17-2014 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by pagey (Post 1603880)
Did you read this thread at all?

"Do your time to upgrade"? What does that even mean? You think sitting in the right seat for 8 years is acceptable because you are "doing your time"?

Movement is coming everywhere. Don't go to PSA for hopes of quick upgrade and flow

pagey 03-17-2014 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by PurdueFlyer (Post 1603896)
Movement is coming everywhere. Don't go to PSA for hopes of quick upgrade and flow

Nowhere will see the rapid movement of PSA/Mesa/Compass in the next 24 months....Nowhere.

Keep telling new pilots to go to XJT and sit right seat for the next decade though....Solid advice.

SimJumpSeat 03-17-2014 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by PurdueFlyer (Post 1603896)
Movement is coming everywhere. Don't go to PSA for hopes of quick upgrade and flow

Starting to feel very sorry for you. *** are you talking about?

You don't have to stay where you are and keep lying to yourself. If you are unhappy that others are moving up and you are not, pick yourself up and go somewhere that has movement and a rapid future. Stop trying to justify your own crisis. We all make bad decisions and have multiple operators on our resumes.......don't stay somewhere for the sake of being "dead right"........move on youngster!!

RH1228 03-17-2014 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by Undrfly (Post 1603576)
Your right there will always be RJ's. Be it in the air or in the desert, there will always be RJ's. There might just be a lot less in operation. Regionals will shrink, people will go back to driving the 2,3, or 4 hours to the airport that they used to. And eventually mainline could stabilize as more rules and regulations evolve.

It's already happening, one example is DFW-DRT they dropped last year. The Del Rio city council just told everybody to drive to SAT, end of story. I wouldn't be surprised to see more routes like DFW - Waco, DFW -Texarkana disappear too. If I wear coming from Waco I would rather drive my truck anyway I think its like 90 minutes to DFW, might even beat the RJ door to door.

PurdueFlyer 03-17-2014 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by SimJumpSeat (Post 1603941)
Starting to feel very sorry for you. *** are you talking about?

You don't have to stay where you are and keep lying to yourself. If you are unhappy that others are moving up and you are not, pick yourself up and go somewhere that has movement and a rapid future. Stop trying to justify your own crisis. We all make bad decisions and have multiple operators on our resumes.......don't stay somewhere for the sake of being "dead right"........move on youngster!!

I'm not a youngster. I've been at this for awhile. I've lived through no movement periods across the industry as have many. I've seen guys get burned hard by chasing upgrades. I could have chased the upgrade, I stuck through it and ended up much better than they did. I'm in a fantastic position for the future. Others I know who went to GoJet or Republic are in the exact same position, just had a lot worse quality of life because they started over. Pay wasn't that much of a difference usually better for me. Quality of life is huge though especially if you have a family.

There have constantly been flavors of the week in this industry. Republic, Mesa, Mesa again, Colgan, etc. It's just like a gold rush if you are leaving to join in after the announcement of discovery of gold than you are too late! Regionals are the same way. The place to be today isn't going to be the place to be tomorrow.

You on the other hand were asking all kinds of questions about how to get hired on at a regional. So who is youngster?

The senior FOs at PSA now will be the only ones who truly benefit from the TA. Guys hired now won't see much benefit considering the movement coming to the entire industry because of mainline retirements.

PurdueFlyer 03-17-2014 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by pagey (Post 1603932)
Nowhere will see the rapid movement of PSA/Mesa/Compass in the next 24 months....Nowhere.

Keep telling new pilots to go to XJT and sit right seat for the next decade though....Solid advice.

No one is going to sit right seat for a decade at any regional. The numbers prove that.

The only ones that will truly benefit from PSA selling out are the senior FOs close to upgrade


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