Psa or gojet??
 

Hello guys,

I have jobs offers at both airlines! Trying to get more information regarding, QOL? Commuting from DFW? Upgrade times? Holding a line?

Thanks!!

How about neither.

Anyone remember the South Park episode where the election was between a Giant Douche and a Turd Sandwich...tough decision....? Not that that has anything to due with this thread <or does it>.

Ohhhh crap here we go......wonder how long it will be till this sucker's locked :)

Seriously dude? EVERYBODY is hiring right now.......

Psa or gojet??
 

Hmmm. Root canal or Colonoscopy?!?

There's no way this is a serious question.

How about, provide something constructive to this thread?

OP, not familiar with Gojet. PSA classes have been full, wont say anymore.......

One is a company created specifically to whipsaw a unionized pilot group into taking a crappy contract full of guys who sold out their coworkers for the promise of a quick upgrade for themselves... The other just screwed over the entire profession by signing a concessionary contract (in the middle of a pilot shortage) in order to secure flying for themselves.

The short answer is NEITHER!

After reading all these very informative posts/threads, regionals suck, pick your poison. Prepare for BS no matter where you go

I can't wait for eagle's vote to close. That'll shut half of you up real quick. My boys at eagle voted no but their sentiments are that the majority will vote this in. Especially the upper half of the pilot group.

Have you applied to SkyWest, ExpressJet or Compass?

PSA if you are cool working at a place with a crap contract and a pilot group that likes to vote in crap contracts. Plus side, you'll probably have a stable job since your concessions will make you the cheapest AA regional. Enjoy the eagle flying.

GoJet if you enjoy being disrespected by Hulas, furloughed then recalled only to be told the recall was a mistake, and laughed at when something isn't right on your pay report. (Maybe it's better there than TSA but that's what happened all the time)

It's up to you.

If I were you I'd just hit the gym and become a male stripper or shirtless bartender. Better treatment by men and tons more money.

You all realized you are trying to talk someone out of, what is most likely, their first flying job. I think its safe to say when many of were in the same position these details were not so obvious. We should try and be less harsh and more productive. With that being said Emb170man was right on, both have gone out of their way to do the job for much less (both pay and QOL) then what little we were making in the first place. So no, you should consider other of the carriers before these two. Although I will admit, I don't know if this racing to the bottom for TPIC time has hindered any of these pilots careers, having worked for said airlines. Because if it hasn't, then hell, maybe it's the right choice, but just not morally, in my humble opinion.

Not trying to put you down or anything, but didn't you research this stuff before you applied, interviewed and got offered the job?? Unless they just emailed you out of the blue and hired you on the spot (which I wouldn't be surprised if they did), you should really research this stuff before you even hit send on that application.

Well, that would take longer than an upgrade. Dont think you would be paid during training either unless you are at psa.

I've alway enjoyed your rants but didn't you jump ship to work at silver as DEC? I make more money than you as an FO and have much better contract and QOL. But hey go get them turbine times. You'll probably get to the majors before me honestly but think twice before you try to lecture somebody.

How many times have you been furloughed?

Hell, if your torn between PSA and GOJets, why not apply at Endeavor. Then you have a trifecta.

If you're commuting from DFW, PSA makes more sense.

Once from PSA for 2.5 years. Once from state university flight school for 6 months. Why?

When you were furloughed did you apply to other airlines?

There's a big difference between going to work for a crappy company as an FO and a crappy company as a Captain.

That's not the point he was trying to make. Let me do it for him.

"People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones".

PSA's contract is NOT EVEN CLOSE to the worst contract in the regionals and is certainly far superior to Gulfs.....o wait....Silver's.

My QoL at PSA is very very high right now, and I'm making a lot more money than I was a year ago under our old contract which actually was pretty bad.

Nope. I was trading stocks and flight instructing and made much more money doing that while staying home.

Don't get me wrong, I was sincere when I said I believe you took the faster route to majors. But where do you draw the line? I could've went to Great Lakes 7 years ago or GIA or CommutAir or gojets and probably be in the majors right now. I went to with PSA because they had a good balance of decent contract and upgrade times back in 2007-2008. Of course it all went to crap but who could've guessed?

I don't like the fact that we sold out anymore than you do. But our pilots (due to an awesome portion of our new contract) can make crap load more than any other regional airlines hands down. Last time PSA pilots said no to 900s to fly it for the same rate, republic got bunch of e jets. Tell me how that turned out for their $37 club.

Why? Because he gets to sign the release? It takes 4-6 years at captain pay to make more than an FO at PSA, in which time that FO will have upgraded and make significantly more than said Gulfst.....Silver captain.

Let me ask you all this:

Silver Airways used to be a "pay to play" operation. Now, those days are decidedly behind them by what? 4 years? 5 years?

Why is Silver ok to work at and GoJet not when the whole GoJet fiasco happened 10 years ago? GoJet is just another regional now, the same way Silver is just another regional.

The original cadre at GoJet are scumbags for sure don't get me wrong. It is not the same place anymore though.

You people are taking away from my Titanfall time.

It's awesome that you have personally come out on top with the new contract! Seriously!

What do you know about Silver's contract?

I didn't come to Silver as a "shortcut" to the majors. I came here because I was tired of being laid off...being a DEC was just a little bonus. I applied and interviewed here while I was furloughed from Hulas Academy and got my class date after finishing my second recall at TSA. I came here because TSA looked like a sinking ship and being 5 from the bottom was a terrible place to be after 5 years.

Pagey stop it!! You're preventing this thread from being locked by having a logical debate!

Back to name calling and mud slinging guys. We all have to let out our stress one way or another!

The comparison wasn't Silver vs. PSA vs. GoJet. If you wanted to throw Silver in there you can...and I would advise a young 23 year old 1500TT guy against coming here if he has other options.

I highly doubt your 5 year FOs make more than I do.

We all have our reasons. Nothing wrong with what you did now that you've explained why. Just as 61% of PSA pilots has their reasons to vote yes. I respected their decisions even though I disagreed with it. I honestly believed PSA will shutdown in 5-6 years had we voted it down and still voted no. Just as my buddies in eagle know they're signing their death sentence if they vote no but they still did! We'll see how that'll play out. One thing I can promise is that I won't be calling them names or threaten denying jumpseats like some of us on apc if the TA passes.

80% or our pilot group benefits from our "new" contract. Every single line holder has the opportunity at not only great QoL via increased days off, but also significantly higher paychecks than under our previous agreement.

No one was bashing you for taking the "shortcut" that you didn't want. He simply brought up that you work at a lower tier regional(as decided by our illustrious constituents here on APC) but yet were bashing PSA and GoJet for being lower tier.

For the record, I know absolutely nothing past what I can read in the "quick take" about your contract. The same way everyone else on here knows nothing about PSA's contract other than the fact that everyone "said it was bad".

Word.

I don't think anyone here has the balls to deny a jumpseat. At least I hope nobody is dumb enough to deny someone a ride home because of something they probably didn't vote for.

My buddy grossed $6000 for the past 3 months. He's a 6 year FO like me. I've been grossing around $3200-$3500 past few months because I prefer 15-17 days off and flying 60 hours a month due to my other obligations and rather be with my family. I don't know what you bring home but I'm sure it's comparable.

The sh&t must be pouring out of your ears. You are freaking full of it buddy.

Do you want to be scum of the earth or scum of the earth....you choose

Sure I am.

Would you like to discuss more ways in which you are wrong?

Yea someone leaves their airline job for gulfstream dec job and it's not for the turbine pic. Let me guess, it was because you like Chevy parts on your airplane? Give me a break.

I was furloughed when I interviewed here, catch up.

I think everyone missed the point here. It's not about whose airline is better... You guys have made your choices in life and have to live with it. This guy has a choice now, and educating him about it is what we're (unsuccessfully) trying to do, although he should've done that himself. So I think the bottom line here is, why PSA or GoJet if you have other choices? And if you do have personal reasons as to why it's between those two companies, then pick your poison and learn to live with it.

"Make a crap load more than any other regional airlines hands down"???????????:confused::rolleyes: