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MavAv8r 01-13-2015 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by FLYMIA (Post 1802027)
I'm just curious, maybe someone could clarify this for me. Why would a CFI/low time pilot go to gojet over TSA? Maybe I'm missing something but isn't TSA a much better choice considering any new FO hired now is going to have a pretty cushy seniority spot with all the growth coming?

I've been saying this for a long time.


Originally Posted by bcpilot (Post 1802217)
$8,000.00 extra in the first year...

The hiring bonus, no matter how they pay it & how you slice it, is an extra $8,000.00 for a first year FO on that poor first year FO pay.

The FO pay is same pretty much across the board at all places.

Also, That amount will also make up for a lot of cancellations...

Plus, the future of 50 seaters is questionable at best. The low price of crude may give those 50 seaters some extra life but all the companies are trying to get rid of them as fast as they can.

Otherwise, one should go where ever the bases or QOL works best for a person.

I put in for nearly $1k in cancellation and re route pay last month. This month with being dropped for IOE, and cancellations will be nearly that. Block 40, Credit 100. Tell me how that works at Go Jet. In just 2 months I will have made up over a quarter of that $8k, just in cancellations and re routes.

Also a taxed ( I'm assuming ), $8000 signing bonus is a moot point when you upgrade at year 2 at TSA, or even quicker. That Captain pay will eat through that in a few months.

Companies handing out a signing bonus have nothing else to offer and thus have to try and entice new hires with a nice signing bonus. Read between the lines people…

Enjoy working your a** off for guarantee.

Concorde001 01-13-2015 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by knobcrk (Post 1802244)
The one good thing about gojet is they do have better schedules. I know guys there that are routinely at 16 days off. Their longer flights help. It's not uncommon at Tsa to do 15 flights a trip just to get to 20 hours. But I hear those new planes they enjoyed for years are starting to break too like at Tsa.

Are you saying that Gojet has better schedules than TSA?
The other issue is the Delta contract expiration coming in 2016...not sure if it will be renewed if they can't find pilots.

air101 01-13-2015 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by Concorde001 (Post 1802355)
Are you saying that Gojet has better schedules than TSA?
The other issue is the Delta contract expiration coming in 2016...not sure if it will be renewed if they can't find pilots.

Not to mention their horrible performance.. better schedules are cool and all, but when half of it cancels and you don't get paid for it... it doesn't really matter.

FlyingKat 01-13-2015 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by bcpilot (Post 1802217)
$8,000.00 extra in the first year...

The hiring bonus, no matter how they pay it & how you slice it, is an extra $8,000.00 for a first year FO on that poor first year FO pay.

The FO pay is same pretty much across the board at all places.

Also, That amount will also make up for a lot of cancellations...

Plus, the future of 50 seaters is questionable at best. The low price of crude may give those 50 seaters some extra life but all the companies are trying to get rid of them as fast as they can.

Otherwise, one should go where ever the bases or QOL works best for a person.

Was hearing the Gojet whiners at flight safety saying this the day we got the planes. How much does that cancellation pay? In my first two years at Trans States cancellation pay made me and extra $20000. $10000 in outright pay for cancellations, and another $10000 in pay for extra pickups because the cancellations reduced my block allowing me to pick up more open time.

Going to be fun hearing the lame excuses you make when we get the MRJs. Already hearing they are looking at putting them all at TSA due to Gojet staffing issues.

Also you will really make up that $8000 with the faster upgrade at TSA as well.

Enjoy the cesspool you Gojet guys created for yourselves! But don't worry sooner or later they will merge us all so you can have a decent contract....

usPilotB 01-13-2015 09:47 AM

Can GoJet pilots add some perspective ? all I see is bashing from trans state over here......looking for inside info.

MavAv8r 01-13-2015 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by usPilotB (Post 1802549)
Can GoJet pilots add some perspective ? all I see is bashing from trans state over here......looking for inside info.

It isn't just Trans States bashing on here. It's everyone. Take the hint and move along.

usPilotB 01-13-2015 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by MavAv8r (Post 1802552)
It isn't just Trans States bashing on here. It's everyone. Take the hint and move along.

I guess you're also a Trans States guy.....

MavAv8r 01-13-2015 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by usPilotB (Post 1802555)
I guess you're also a Trans States guy.....

What do you want to hear? You sound like you just want sunshine and rainbows. You get to fly a *****in' RJ 700, some even in Delta colors… Cool bro.

You come on here and ask for information, and that is what you are going to get. Go Jet sucks, end of story. If you are looking for a pat on the ass, and someone to tell you to go to Go Jet over any other regional then you are going to be searching for a while on here….and every other pilot forum.

RA26222 01-13-2015 10:57 AM

usPilotB maybe the best "hint" you could take from MavAv8r is to observe the type of people here and who they fly for.. speaking for myself any one who comes across as an angry bitter person who puts others down to make themselves feel better is not the type of guy I want to be stuck sitting next to for hours at a time.
If your able to go there is a career fair in Dallas the end of the month. Several reps will be there for you to talk with: Dallas / Fort Worth Pilot Job Fair January 30 2015 ? Aero Crew Solutions

FLYMIA 01-13-2015 11:16 AM

Everyone has their right to opinion as to why or why not you should work for airline X or Y. In comparing TSA to GOJET from the perspective of a CFI going to a regional, it just seems obvious as to why TSA would be a better choice. If you have two airlines, X and Y, both have nearly ALL the same Bases, flying regional jet equipment. X however just got orders for aircraft which will double the size of the airline. This means, LOTS of growth and quick upgrades and getting off of reserve fairly quickly.
A new hire FO would be off of reserve in a month or so. I just don't get it. Someone tell me what I'm missing, why would any CFI choose Y (stagnant carrier) over X, (growth opportunity carrier)?


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