Do you trust your Captain?
06-15-2007 | 04:05 AM
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From: G2 gear slammer
Do you trust your Captain?
I just flew my first trip with my new captain. Nice guy, professional, and overall a good person.
BUT...
He scared the sh!t out of me, not once, but TWICE in two days. I informed him of said issues, and he blew it off. Don't worry, I took it to my CP and it's being investigated.
Here's my ? for you folks on this fine Friday morning...
Do you trust your Captain? Do you have complete faith that when you strap yourself to a metal tube and blast across open sky, that he won't do something stupid and risk your life? Do you feel that you can bring any issue up to a captain, even if you have a 4 day multi leg/day trip and don't really want to **** the guy off?
BUT...
He scared the sh!t out of me, not once, but TWICE in two days. I informed him of said issues, and he blew it off. Don't worry, I took it to my CP and it's being investigated.
Here's my ? for you folks on this fine Friday morning...
Do you trust your Captain? Do you have complete faith that when you strap yourself to a metal tube and blast across open sky, that he won't do something stupid and risk your life? Do you feel that you can bring any issue up to a captain, even if you have a 4 day multi leg/day trip and don't really want to **** the guy off?
06-15-2007 | 07:35 AM
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From: Turbo-props' and John Deere's
I guess I can't say I've had the same situation, because I'm single-pilot ops. But if I had someone that scared me like that, I'd be watching everything they do like a hawk, and maybe trying to take the majority of the workload or whatever to keep them away from certain activities I feel they are lacking skill in. After the trip I would bring it up with the Chief or whomever would be in charge. If it is that said person, then after the trip it would be the best time I would think to bring up your issues with their performance. It's really a tough situation seeing how you're obviously the junior person on the aircraft also. Good Luck, fly safe.
06-15-2007 | 07:44 AM
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Ive flown with alot of people in GA a/c's ; and Ive experienced "wtf did you just do" occurences from other pilots in the cockpit. The crazy thing is Im not a CFI yet and having my doubts of becoming one at the moment. Theres alot of pilots out there that fly just like the typical 16yr. driver, and thats scary. I believe that once you develop bad habits and lazyness; you will bring them into your profession, and that will catch up to you sooner or later.
06-15-2007 | 07:50 AM
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Complacency kills.... Maybe the guy needs some refreshing dual? I know at school we are always trying to help out one another with various ideas or way to teach students. There isn't a reason one can't transfer that idea over to a 121 operation. The worst thing you can do is blow it off. "It won't happen to me" can and will kill you.
06-15-2007 | 09:05 AM
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From: Shotty!!
I learned about something called an assertive statement in a human factors class. Its whole purpose is to bring something to someone's attention, ie being below a DA, busting a taxi clearance etc., while still allowing for effective communication afterwards. It has has five main points:
1. Get the listener's attention
2. Take responsibility for the communication by expressing some kind of emotion.
“This is not a typical communication, I am concerned”
3. State the problem clearly and without ambiguity.
4. Propose an action or solution
5. Insist on feedback
So for example:
"Captain, I am concerned about our approach. We are below DH without visual contact. We should do a missed approach. Don’t you agree?"
Just thought I'd share, hope it helps
1. Get the listener's attention
2. Take responsibility for the communication by expressing some kind of emotion.
“This is not a typical communication, I am concerned”
3. State the problem clearly and without ambiguity.
4. Propose an action or solution
5. Insist on feedback
So for example:
"Captain, I am concerned about our approach. We are below DH without visual contact. We should do a missed approach. Don’t you agree?"
Just thought I'd share, hope it helps
06-15-2007 | 09:12 AM
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From: EMB-145 FO
I learned about something called an assertive statement in a human factors class. Its whole purpose is to bring something to someone's attention, ie being below a DA, busting a taxi clearance etc., while still allowing for effective communication afterwards. It has has five main points:
1. Get the listener's attention
2. Take responsibility for the communication by expressing some kind of emotion.
“This is not a typical communication, I am concerned”
3. State the problem clearly and without ambiguity.
4. Propose an action or solution
5. Insist on feedback
So for example:
"Captain, I am concerned about our approach. We are below DH without visual contact. We should do a missed approach. Don’t you agree?"
Just thought I'd share, hope it helps
1. Get the listener's attention
2. Take responsibility for the communication by expressing some kind of emotion.
“This is not a typical communication, I am concerned”
3. State the problem clearly and without ambiguity.
4. Propose an action or solution
5. Insist on feedback
So for example:
"Captain, I am concerned about our approach. We are below DH without visual contact. We should do a missed approach. Don’t you agree?"
Just thought I'd share, hope it helps
06-15-2007 | 09:20 AM
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From: Spartan
If you start that at DA or DH, you're probably touching down by the time he looks over at you and says "What"?
06-15-2007 | 09:35 AM
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From: G2 gear slammer
Thanks for the replies folks.
After my CP, the guy who i trusted, blew off the issues I raised with him about the new pilot. After our ferry to SRQ tomorrow, I am on vaca for 2 weeks. Resumes are going out this afternoon.
After my CP, the guy who i trusted, blew off the issues I raised with him about the new pilot. After our ferry to SRQ tomorrow, I am on vaca for 2 weeks. Resumes are going out this afternoon.
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