Ukraine conflict
06-03-2023, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by T1000
All the posters on this topic so far are clueless.
i doubt it
its very interesting to me when people believe a certain response will attain a certain result, when in fact it just looks incredibly foolish to everyone involved. Fascinating
06-04-2023, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by METO Guido
His point, if I may, it didn’t work. Anybody heard back from Strawberry 5?
But my point is what did his point have to do with the troll post? I don't know (yet) if my opinion on this is right, wrong, or somewhere in between but I do have a professional basis for said opinion.
06-04-2023, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Sure, that was my grandad's squadron. They took that report seriously.
But my point is what did his point have to do with the troll post?
06-05-2023, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Sure, that was my grandad's squadron. They took that report seriously.
But my point is what did his point have to do with the troll post? I don't know (yet) if my opinion on this is right, wrong, or somewhere in between but I do have a professional basis for said opinion.
But my point is what did his point have to do with the troll post? I don't know (yet) if my opinion on this is right, wrong, or somewhere in between but I do have a professional basis for said opinion.
06-05-2023, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
The point is that even honorable and professional people, doing their best, make mistakes, both tactical and strategic. I doubt it was really Halsey’s INTENTION to have Taffy 3 take on Kurita’s fleet, however heroically and valiantly they managed to do it. But the “fog of war” doesn’t just wait until war actually happens either. We still misread the other guys intentions and capabilities with considerable regularity. Witness the closing chapters to the 20 year war in Afghanistan.
I just said I'm not clueless on this topic... as implied by somebody who probably got riled up by a few grossly uninformed blogosphere rants.
06-05-2023, 08:36 PM
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Looks like the party is starting. If its true, I’m pretty sure these guys are now wise in the ways of war and would not do so without the proper equipment, training, and logistics. Luckily they have staunch allies in the EU and North America that made this possible. Should be an interesting next couple of weeks. Slava ukraine.
06-06-2023, 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by METO Guido
‘The horror’
Joseph Conrad
Heart of Darkness 1899
Joseph Conrad
Heart of Darkness 1899
(i am not insinuating that your point is anything other than lamenting the continued horror that is about to unfold, merely expounding on it)
at face value it looks to me like russia broke the dam to make crossing the river a problem for the ukranian offensive
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06-06-2023, 05:51 AM
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European unity - tenuous as ever
https://www.politico.eu/article/hung...strian-empire/
An excerpt:
An excerpt:
VIENNA — Austrian politician Herbert Kickl is a pro-Russian, anti-American conspiracy theorist who champions horse dewormer as a remedy for COVID-19 and wants to turn the Alpine country into a “fortress” against migration.
He’s also the odds-on favorite to become his country’s next leader and Europe’s next big headache.
Kickl’s far-right Freedom Party has been leading the country’s national polls by several points since November as soaring inflation and a sharp increase in asylum applications fuel discontent with the current government, a coalition between the center-right Austrian People’s Party and the Greens. With the other main opposition party, the Social Democrats, plagued by infighting, Kickl’s party has the best chance in years to seize power.That would spell major trouble for the European Union, which is already struggling to cope with Hungary, where nationalist Prime Minister Viktor Orbán has systematically taken control of all major levers of power and undermined independent media, transforming the country into what critics see as a semi-authoritarian state in the middle of the EU.
Austria isn’t the only country in the region susceptible to Orbánism. Neighboring Slovakia is also teetering on the brink of a populist revival. The pro-Russian Smer-SD — whose leader, former Prime Minister Robert Fico, was forced out of office in 2018 amid a wave of popular protests triggered by the brutal murder of an investigative reporter and his fiancée — is leading the polls ahead of a snap election set for September. Fico has vowed to end Slovakia’s military support for neighboring Ukraine, if elected.
European officials warn that wins by pro-Russian forces in Slovakia and Austria would hand Russian President Vladimir Putin a powerful tool against Ukraine, making it easier for him to undermine sanctions and EU efforts to assist Ukraine.
“It would be a disaster,” a senior Commission official from the region said bluntly
He’s also the odds-on favorite to become his country’s next leader and Europe’s next big headache.
Kickl’s far-right Freedom Party has been leading the country’s national polls by several points since November as soaring inflation and a sharp increase in asylum applications fuel discontent with the current government, a coalition between the center-right Austrian People’s Party and the Greens. With the other main opposition party, the Social Democrats, plagued by infighting, Kickl’s party has the best chance in years to seize power.That would spell major trouble for the European Union, which is already struggling to cope with Hungary, where nationalist Prime Minister Viktor Orbán has systematically taken control of all major levers of power and undermined independent media, transforming the country into what critics see as a semi-authoritarian state in the middle of the EU.
Austria isn’t the only country in the region susceptible to Orbánism. Neighboring Slovakia is also teetering on the brink of a populist revival. The pro-Russian Smer-SD — whose leader, former Prime Minister Robert Fico, was forced out of office in 2018 amid a wave of popular protests triggered by the brutal murder of an investigative reporter and his fiancée — is leading the polls ahead of a snap election set for September. Fico has vowed to end Slovakia’s military support for neighboring Ukraine, if elected.
European officials warn that wins by pro-Russian forces in Slovakia and Austria would hand Russian President Vladimir Putin a powerful tool against Ukraine, making it easier for him to undermine sanctions and EU efforts to assist Ukraine.
“It would be a disaster,” a senior Commission official from the region said bluntly
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