You’re a non-rev??? GO SIT DOWN!!!
02-04-2023, 08:16 PM
#101
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
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Originally Posted by Slick111
“Hey guys, I’m Tyler! I got a seat in the back. I just finished a red eye from Maui and I’m trying to go home. I’ll be in 27F, if you need me.”
First, why in the hell would we need you?
Secondly,……. no one cares!!!! You’re non-revving,…… you’re interrupting,…… you don’t need the Captain’s permission to non-rev on your own airline. GO SIT DOWN!!!
So because Tyler has apparently never been properly educated on jumpseat and/or non-rev etiquette, let’s cover it here:
* If you’re a non-rev, on your own airline, (or it’s affiliate), with a seat assignment,…… JUST GO SIT DOWN!
* If you’re wanting to ride in a cockpit jumpseat, (on-line OR off-line), go to the cockpit, with your boarding pass, license, medical, and company I.d. in hand, and politely ask the Captain you may ride in his jumpseat.
* If you’re off-line jumpseating, but have a seat in the back,….. stop by the cockpit, introduce yourself, ask the Captain for permission to ride in the back, and thank him/her for the ride.
That’s how it’s done.
First, why in the hell would we need you?
Secondly,……. no one cares!!!! You’re non-revving,…… you’re interrupting,…… you don’t need the Captain’s permission to non-rev on your own airline. GO SIT DOWN!!!
So because Tyler has apparently never been properly educated on jumpseat and/or non-rev etiquette, let’s cover it here:
* If you’re a non-rev, on your own airline, (or it’s affiliate), with a seat assignment,…… JUST GO SIT DOWN!
* If you’re wanting to ride in a cockpit jumpseat, (on-line OR off-line), go to the cockpit, with your boarding pass, license, medical, and company I.d. in hand, and politely ask the Captain you may ride in his jumpseat.
* If you’re off-line jumpseating, but have a seat in the back,….. stop by the cockpit, introduce yourself, ask the Captain for permission to ride in the back, and thank him/her for the ride.
That’s how it’s done.
02-04-2023, 09:31 PM
#102
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Joined APC: Oct 2005
Position: Office Chair
Posts: 629
I stop by the cockpit to say hi every time I'm asking for a ride, offline or online. If I paid for the seat, but I'm commuting in uniform, or if I'm DHing, I still say hi and introduce myself so the crew doesn't have to guess why I'm hiding in the back avoiding contact. I likely don't know the PIC that day and what his/her expectations are, and it's the unassuming, polite thing to do. I figure it's better to check in with a captain that doesn't expect it than to not check in with a captain who does.
02-04-2023, 09:51 PM
#103
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 417
Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW
I stop by the cockpit to say hi every time I'm asking for a ride, offline or online. If I paid for the seat, but I'm commuting in uniform, or if I'm DHing, I still say hi and introduce myself so the crew doesn't have to guess why I'm hiding in the back avoiding contact. I likely don't know the PIC that day and what his/her expectations are, and it's the unassuming, polite thing to do. I figure it's better to check in with a captain that doesn't expect it than to not check in with a captain who does.
02-04-2023, 11:20 PM
#104
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Joined APC: Dec 2020
Posts: 122
The crux of the issue is that every captain is different. Some don’t care, look at you like you have 3 heads wondering why you’re saying hi, some greatly appreciate it when you say hi and i’ve been specifically thanked for doing so, some want to see documents, and some might kick you off if you neglect to say hi at all with a seat in the back.
commuters have to be chameleons in this respect, and frankly i’d rather slightly annoy a captain for saying hi when I don’t need to by being overly polite than get kicked off by a grumpy captain who feels sleighted when you don’t say hi at all.
commuters just can’t win
commuters have to be chameleons in this respect, and frankly i’d rather slightly annoy a captain for saying hi when I don’t need to by being overly polite than get kicked off by a grumpy captain who feels sleighted when you don’t say hi at all.
commuters just can’t win
02-05-2023, 02:01 AM
#105
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Posts: 39
So I listed on zed as pilot commuting on American OAL. It had been a while since I’d last done so, and because I wasn’t asking for the jumpseat I didn’t check in, but the captain called me up to the flight deck and asked to see my documents. would you guys normally check in here?
02-05-2023, 05:30 AM
#106
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Joined APC: Jan 2015
Posts: 384
Originally Posted by Nightly
So I listed on zed as pilot commuting on American OAL. It had been a while since I’d last done so, and because I wasn’t asking for the jumpseat I didn’t check in, but the captain called me up to the flight deck and asked to see my documents. would you guys normally check in here?
Now, if I were the captain, I wouldn’t care if you didn’t check in, But as a previous poster said you have to be a chameleon when you commute, it’s better to check in and get an odd look then to get pulled aside and lectured for not checking in.
02-05-2023, 05:40 AM
#107
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Joined APC: Jan 2022
Posts: 156
If you’re riding using a JS agreement you have to check in. Why we have to check in even though we have seat in the back is a grey area because at that point to the crew we’re no different than someone that’s on standby that doesn’t need to check in. But usually all agreements want you to ask for permission since you are riding free. By the way, please don’t be like the OP, not to mention their DHer didn’t do anything wrong. I always appreciate company pilots letting me know they’re back there.
02-05-2023, 06:57 AM
#108
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 3,662
Originally Posted by shortspatula
If you’re riding using a JS agreement you have to check in. Why we have to check in even though we have seat in the back is a grey area because at that point to the crew we’re no different than someone that’s on standby that doesn’t need to check in. But usually all agreements want you to ask for permission since you are riding free. By the way, please don’t be like the OP, not to mention their DHer didn’t do anything wrong. I always appreciate company pilots letting me know they’re back there.
02-05-2023, 07:59 AM
#109
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Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 1,017
Originally Posted by Cyio
The reason we have to check in is simply due to keeping control of the JS in the CA's hands, not the companies. There really is no practical reason anymore for it.
02-05-2023, 08:19 AM
#110
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Posts: 199
Originally Posted by BufordT Justice
Ha! Joke’s on you. I wear my lanyard in civilian clothes so the flight attendant will give me the whole can of Coke.
What works best is just let the lead FA know if you want to see the non revs or not. If you don't need to see any of them, your FA will kindly redirect them towards the cabin. They may have confused picachou faces on while they make their way to their seats, but oh well.
Last edited by Bluetruth; 02-05-2023 at 08:34 AM.
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