Giving two weeks notice - a sob story
#11
On Reserve Forever
Joined APC: Sep 2009
Position: Would you like fries with that gear, sir?
Posts: 270
Bringing it back from the dead.
I'm not in the exact same position as the original poster of this thread, but I have been giving this a lot of thought this morning.
I'm looking to and hope to leave my employer within the next week or 2. The job I will be taking I missed my chance to take last year and if I say I need to give my employer 2 weeks I will miss my chance again. They typically call on a Wednesday and want you to report in on the next Monday. Pay is historically amazing and the job is fun. Its contract for 4 months, with the possibility of renewal for more contracts. Its not a flying gig, but will allow for saving money that will pay for more training.
Based on a previous employer, I gave my 2 weeks only to have my supervisor turn to even more of a jerk. On the other hand, my current employer was talking to me about giving adequate* notice. Saying another employee who just left notified him months in advance. I saw a different story with his notice. I advised my employer that my intentions at the current moment was to find another job, but that I had not found one. The job in the above paragraph is not a guarantee and I don't want him hiring someone to "fill in" if I'm not really leaving. I can't afford to financially pass up this job up. I'm a independent contractor flight instructor (great grammar) required to be at the school for set scheduled hours. I have one steady student, which could easily be picked up by another staffer.
What are ppls thoughts on this. I show up to work, answer the phones for him, help him run the shop, all for free. I only get paid for flying and ground.
I'm looking to and hope to leave my employer within the next week or 2. The job I will be taking I missed my chance to take last year and if I say I need to give my employer 2 weeks I will miss my chance again. They typically call on a Wednesday and want you to report in on the next Monday. Pay is historically amazing and the job is fun. Its contract for 4 months, with the possibility of renewal for more contracts. Its not a flying gig, but will allow for saving money that will pay for more training.
Based on a previous employer, I gave my 2 weeks only to have my supervisor turn to even more of a jerk. On the other hand, my current employer was talking to me about giving adequate* notice. Saying another employee who just left notified him months in advance. I saw a different story with his notice. I advised my employer that my intentions at the current moment was to find another job, but that I had not found one. The job in the above paragraph is not a guarantee and I don't want him hiring someone to "fill in" if I'm not really leaving. I can't afford to financially pass up this job up. I'm a independent contractor flight instructor (great grammar) required to be at the school for set scheduled hours. I have one steady student, which could easily be picked up by another staffer.
What are ppls thoughts on this. I show up to work, answer the phones for him, help him run the shop, all for free. I only get paid for flying and ground.
#12
I'd say you're being screwed. If they wanted an office asst. they need to pay for one some form or fashion. What is done when you are out? Sometimes you just need to take a risk and go for it, but you really need to feel it's for your best interest. I think you have already made up your mind, just need some warm-fuzzy feelings to back it up. You probably won't find those, and I wish you the best of luck whatever your decision is.
#13
When you have this Friday meeting with your old boss, be kind and pleasant. Don’t get caught up giving long explanations on how to fix your old boss or the company. He will not listen, and your boss will most likely take your grievances personal.
You are really in control of this meeting. If you want some personal satisfaction the most I would do would be to ask why I wasn’t flying for 3 weeks. Then listen patently, without interrupting him. When he’s finished (probably a lame excuse) just say “Oh” or Thank you” shake his hand and you end the meeting.
Enjoy your next job. Try to say little or nothing bad about your old boss. A year from now none of this will matter as you get comfortable with your new situation.
You are really in control of this meeting. If you want some personal satisfaction the most I would do would be to ask why I wasn’t flying for 3 weeks. Then listen patently, without interrupting him. When he’s finished (probably a lame excuse) just say “Oh” or Thank you” shake his hand and you end the meeting.
Enjoy your next job. Try to say little or nothing bad about your old boss. A year from now none of this will matter as you get comfortable with your new situation.
#14
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2009
Position: Nice while it lasted
Posts: 326
Act respectfully and professionally, both in your meeting and afterwards. Your goal is not to impress your current boss - it sounds like he does not value you much, anyway. What you want is for your fellow pilots to see you heading out the door as a true gentleman. They are the ones you want to impress, and you don't want to be seen as a whiner. It will matter down the road.
#15
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: 135 FO
Posts: 148
If you were on your day off, then you have no duty to answer the phone. Your rest periods must be scheduled and the company cannot punish you for not answering.
It sounds like your company may be doing some illegal things with duty and rest. On call is NOT rest!
It sounds like your company may be doing some illegal things with duty and rest. On call is NOT rest!
#16
Now you know why nearly every aviation company of any size is a union shop. Seniority controls your life in ways both good and bad, but at least you know that you will be treated the same as everyone else on the seniority list. Training opportunities (upgrades) and better schedules come along when it is your turn- not when someone in a suit likes you better. Hope your next organization is more professional.
also - we only know one side of the story here - just like any other Dear Abby article. There is usually much more to the story.
There is no perfect answer.
To the OP. Don't burn your bridges. Take responsibility for your actions - both good and bad - and welcome to life and work. It isn't always fair - never has been, never will be. Make you own luck, do what is best for you and yours, and best of luck at your new job too.
IMO.
USMCFLYR
#17
Wow! That's a tough call to make, however, based upon what you said, I'd say you don't owe them a damn thing. You've been a team player, the quentessential employee. They couldn't asked for more. They did...but in the wrong manner. I'd beat them to the punch...especially since you have another job offer. As suggested, if you believe that your employer is going to fire you, then I would go in ahead of the scheduled meeting and resign. Take the high road.
Btw, not a sob story. All the best.
atp
Btw, not a sob story. All the best.
atp