What was your worst mistake
01-13-2008, 09:03 PM
#21
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DACT against F-15's over the North Sea. I thought I was just really hung over....but I was probably still drunk. Thought I was going to puke in my own glove. Each engagement, I was just happy to get shot early and go the the mort-locker and hold.
Back in the day this wasn't all that infrequent an occurance in USAFE.
Back in the day this wasn't all that infrequent an occurance in USAFE.
01-13-2008, 09:16 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by Clue32
That's not such a bad thing. Try constantly switching between JGO 47 and JGO 48 then CLUE or DUKE something or other. Using the wrong call sign can easilly happen.
01-14-2008, 04:58 AM
#24
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Supposedly I had a "Altitude Deviation resulting in a loss of separation." Took some arguing and debate, but the feds finally gave in, but since they can't ever be wrong, I got the "24month" slap on the hand, saying don't do anything else or they'll use that instance against me. Bah!
Oh yeah, for anyone out there, AOPA's legal services are worth it, whatever you're doing in flying a little help goes a long way.
Oh yeah, for anyone out there, AOPA's legal services are worth it, whatever you're doing in flying a little help goes a long way.
01-24-2008, 01:20 PM
#27
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I busted class B airspace about 10 years ago. I was flying VFR and already ducked under the first ring. I contacted approach as soon as I departed an airport that was located about 10 miles from the farthest ring. Approach said stand by to me so I ducked under that ring and continued. Once a little lower and closer too the next ring, I once again contacted approach. He said once again stand by so I decended once again. As I got closer too the next ring and was done to 1200 feet I called approach again. Problem was that ring started at 1500 and I was now in class B airspace.
The approach controller finally acknowledged me and when I requested clearence to enter Class B, he said you are already in it. I got pretty mad at him and said I had called you twice for clearence and twice you said stand by. I can only go so low before I am skimming the deck. He said I was cleared into Class B and to be carefull next time. I said next time answer me when I call you. This is a true story and nothing more came from it. I didn't file a NASA report although I should have. I think the statue of limitations ( I know it's statute, but statue is funnier) has run out....I hope
The approach controller finally acknowledged me and when I requested clearence to enter Class B, he said you are already in it. I got pretty mad at him and said I had called you twice for clearence and twice you said stand by. I can only go so low before I am skimming the deck. He said I was cleared into Class B and to be carefull next time. I said next time answer me when I call you. This is a true story and nothing more came from it. I didn't file a NASA report although I should have. I think the statue of limitations ( I know it's statute, but statue is funnier) has run out....I hope
01-25-2008, 04:16 AM
#28
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Originally Posted by flyifrvfr
The approach controller finally acknowledged me and when I requested clearence to enter Class B, he said you are already in it. I got pretty mad at him and said I had called you twice for clearence and twice you said stand by. I can only go so low before I am skimming the deck. He said I was cleared into Class B and to be carefull next time. I said next time answer me when I call you. This is a true story and nothing more came from it. I didn't file a NASA report although I should have. I think the statue of limitations ( I know it's statute, but statue is funnier) has run out....I hope
01-25-2008, 10:57 AM
#29
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Originally Posted by Ewfflyer
No offense, but you were 100% in the wrong. It doesn't matter, whatever the reason for them to tell you to "standby" is, you have the option of circling or leaving the area, but not busting into that airspace. You don't know who or what they have operating there, and obviously if you were that close, you were in proximity of the main airport serving the class-B. Just my 2-cents, but what do I know.
01-25-2008, 02:22 PM
#30
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Originally Posted by FlyJSH
Me too..... but I was in south Texas and just kept answering all the questions with "?Que? No hablo ingles." They put me on a bus, gave me a baloney sandwich, and shipped me to Mexico. A day later I walked home... no harm no foul.
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