Monster cable vs. coat hanger
03-04-2008 | 08:26 AM
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Monster cable vs. coat hanger
Not a single audiophile was able to hear the difference between the Monster Cable and the hangers, and all agreed that the hangers sounded excellent. Check it out. http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/03/a...ter-cable-and/
03-04-2008 | 08:49 AM
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Go back on the links.and find the source.
I'm not disagreeing with the findings,but it's what a poster on an audio site came up with. In electronics,like aviation,there are a lot of concurrent factors
that come into play.
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...2&postcount=28
Isn't it funny how credibility gets amplified the more links it goes through...
Soon the whole 'net is quoting you!
I'm not disagreeing with the findings,but it's what a poster on an audio site came up with. In electronics,like aviation,there are a lot of concurrent factors
that come into play.
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...2&postcount=28
Isn't it funny how credibility gets amplified the more links it goes through...
Soon the whole 'net is quoting you!
03-04-2008 | 08:50 AM
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I totally agree. When I built my home theater, I conducted my own test and no one could tell the difference. I highly recommend http://www.bluejeanscable.com/ or http://www.monoprice.com/home/index.asp. I have cables from both and they are high quality and very affordable. Monster's ad budget dictates their high price (as well as the gullible consumer). Bose does the same thing for their over-priced under-performing speakers.
Alarkyokie - I agree 100%..always check sources. Personally, if you don't need the flexibilty, I prefer 14 AWG home electrical wiring for long speaker runs.
Check this site out...http://www.bigscreenforums.com/. A fair amount of opinions but finding one supporting Monster or Bose will be tough.
I totally agree. When I built my home theater, I conducted my own test and no one could tell the difference. I highly recommend http://www.bluejeanscable.com/ or http://www.monoprice.com/home/index.asp. I have cables from both and they are high quality and very affordable. Monster's ad budget dictates their high price (as well as the gullible consumer). Bose does the same thing for their over-priced under-performing speakers.
Alarkyokie - I agree 100%..always check sources. Personally, if you don't need the flexibilty, I prefer 14 AWG home electrical wiring for long speaker runs.
Check this site out...http://www.bigscreenforums.com/. A fair amount of opinions but finding one supporting Monster or Bose will be tough.
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03-04-2008 | 08:58 AM
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For speaker cables all you need is a chunk of metal which is thick enough to pass the current but too thick to allow eddy-currents or strange impedances. A coat hanger sounds about right.
The frequency of the transmission is low enough that not many other common transmitters are likely to interfere, so shielding is not an issue unless the cable runs adjacent to a large motor or some other low-freq electromechanical device.
The frequency of the transmission is low enough that not many other common transmitters are likely to interfere, so shielding is not an issue unless the cable runs adjacent to a large motor or some other low-freq electromechanical device.
03-04-2008 | 12:22 PM
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Unless you are running 1250000 meters of speaker cable (1/4 wavelength of 60 Hz if the web page caclulator was correct) you've not got a very good antenna for 60 Hz. The 120 Hz rectified is going to be far louder from your power supply.
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03-04-2008 | 12:37 PM
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Forget the EE calculations..power isn't being used in an RF fashion.
Think grounding circuitry,proximity induction and you'll get the hum.
Sound engineers understand such.
03-04-2008 | 02:38 PM
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My father had a friend in Atlanta who made a very good living running a hi-fi stereo store there in the 60s-80s. He got rich spinning a yarn about imaging, sound stage, phasing, presence, and other bits found in Absolute Sound or Stereo Review. High volume outlets eventually ruined his business, but I never forget how smooth sales talk can get people to spend a lot for nothing. So it is in the stereo business, and I noticed that video equipment companies have a similar thing going now with these HDMI cables. They have no better signal transfer performance than a Cat-5 ethernet cable for five times as much.
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03-05-2008 | 09:41 AM
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Strictly speaking, rectified means what you get after the diodes and is "DC" in that it is not allowed to go negative. If you were to use that as your supply rail you would be quite a bad sound engineer though. What you get after the capacitors is DC, for the most part, with still a lot of 120Hz and harmonics left over from whatever the wave is when you have a 60Hz sinusoid that can't go negative and usually the source of most noise through coupling on the LOW LEVEL audio. Speaker audio is much higher level and not subject to such noise.
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