This Generation will be known for what ?
06-22-2008, 05:41 AM
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This Generation will be known for what ?
Since my grandparents were part of the greatest generation so to speak ,what do you think this baby boom generation will be remembered for?
From what I have seen about this current generation that they do not even come close to the last and its a shame .I remember seeing 2001 and thinking wow ! that would be cool so whatever happened to the lofty ideas we had as a country?
From what I have seen about this current generation that they do not even come close to the last and its a shame .I remember seeing 2001 and thinking wow ! that would be cool so whatever happened to the lofty ideas we had as a country?
06-22-2008, 05:53 AM
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sad what is happening to this country...............
I can tell you my generation (im 27) and those that are younger them me are the "entitlement generation". Nobody wants to work hard for anything anymore, they think the DESERVE it. It all started with the huge Self-Esteem kick when I was younger, everyone is special, everyone is great, nobody loses at T-ball. The fact is losing is part of life, and growing up, builds character..............some parents need to know that their kid is a degenerate and is not special and deserves a good slap every now and then.......
"how dare a teacher yell at my kid, she has no right, he only threw a desk at her". In Northern Jersey parents are too concerned about their psychical appearance and their social status, they can't be bothered with raising their kids properly........
ok Im done rant over, angry enough as it is
I can tell you my generation (im 27) and those that are younger them me are the "entitlement generation". Nobody wants to work hard for anything anymore, they think the DESERVE it. It all started with the huge Self-Esteem kick when I was younger, everyone is special, everyone is great, nobody loses at T-ball. The fact is losing is part of life, and growing up, builds character..............some parents need to know that their kid is a degenerate and is not special and deserves a good slap every now and then.......
"how dare a teacher yell at my kid, she has no right, he only threw a desk at her". In Northern Jersey parents are too concerned about their psychical appearance and their social status, they can't be bothered with raising their kids properly........
ok Im done rant over, angry enough as it is
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06-22-2008, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
sad what is happening to this country...............
I can tell you my generation (im 27) and those that are younger them me are the "entitlement generation". Nobody wants to work hard for anything anymore, they think the DESERVE it. It all started with the huge Self-Esteem kick when I was younger, everyone is special, everyone is great, nobody loses at T-ball. The fact is losing is part of life, and growing up, builds character..............some parents need to know that their kid is a degenerate and is not special and deserves a good slap every now and then.......
I can tell you my generation (im 27) and those that are younger them me are the "entitlement generation". Nobody wants to work hard for anything anymore, they think the DESERVE it. It all started with the huge Self-Esteem kick when I was younger, everyone is special, everyone is great, nobody loses at T-ball. The fact is losing is part of life, and growing up, builds character..............some parents need to know that their kid is a degenerate and is not special and deserves a good slap every now and then.......
06-22-2008, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by DYNASTY HVY
Since my grandparents were part of the greatest generation so to speak ,what do you think this baby boom generation will be remembered for?
From what I have seen about this current generation that they do not even come close to the last and its a shame .I remember seeing 2001 and thinking wow ! that would be cool so whatever happened to the lofty ideas we had as a country?
From what I have seen about this current generation that they do not even come close to the last and its a shame .I remember seeing 2001 and thinking wow ! that would be cool so whatever happened to the lofty ideas we had as a country?
06-22-2008, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
sad what is happening to this country...............
I can tell you my generation (im 27) and those that are younger them me are the "entitlement generation". Nobody wants to work hard for anything anymore, they think the DESERVE it. It all started with the huge Self-Esteem kick when I was younger, everyone is special, everyone is great, nobody loses at T-ball. The fact is losing is part of life, and growing up, builds character..............some parents need to know that their kid is a degenerate and is not special and deserves a good slap every now and then.......
"how dare a teacher yell at my kid, she has no right, he only threw a desk at her". In Northern Jersey parents are too concerned about their psychical appearance and their social status, they can't be bothered with raising their kids properly........
ok Im done rant over, angry enough as it is
I can tell you my generation (im 27) and those that are younger them me are the "entitlement generation". Nobody wants to work hard for anything anymore, they think the DESERVE it. It all started with the huge Self-Esteem kick when I was younger, everyone is special, everyone is great, nobody loses at T-ball. The fact is losing is part of life, and growing up, builds character..............some parents need to know that their kid is a degenerate and is not special and deserves a good slap every now and then.......
"how dare a teacher yell at my kid, she has no right, he only threw a desk at her". In Northern Jersey parents are too concerned about their psychical appearance and their social status, they can't be bothered with raising their kids properly........
ok Im done rant over, angry enough as it is
The boomers don't help much either...they talk about all the hippy ideals, but when it comes right down to it they are all about themselves. After they all retire, they are going to OWN the rest of us...they will exercise their political power to economically enslave anybody who is still working. It might better to plan on being retired by that point...the taxes will probably make it pointless to keep working.
Gen X at least suffered through some economic problems in the 80's and early 90's during their formative years.
Of course these are generaliztions...most of the folks fighting in CENTCOM are "entitlement" kids, and most pilots are more like the WWII generation in their outlook.
06-22-2008, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
everyone is special, everyone is great, nobody loses at T-ball. The fact is losing is part of life, and growing up, builds character..............some parents need to know that their kid is a degenerate and is not special and deserves a good slap every now and then.......
see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicopter_parent
Sums up this thread pretty well...
06-22-2008, 02:15 PM
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Sorry guy's but I have to disagree that the Greatest Generation is the greatest generation. To me the greatest generation was the Vietnam era generation. I'm not talking about the vocal minority better know as hippies, but the hard working middle class and backbone of the country.
I'm sure many of you are going to blast me out of the water, but hear me out first.
The Greatest Generation did some great things but stop and look at some of the other things. They fought WWII and lost several million people while the US lost 292,000 soldiers. Then when they were put in charge they got us involved in Vietnam. Whether we should have gotten involved is not the question. The point is, if you're going to get involved do it right. The Greatest Generation was the ones who botched this one up. They tried the technique of WWII, just throw money and people at the problem. The result; 58,000 dead americans. Additionally, there were 21 new weapon systems fielded in Vietnam, all but 2 had to be recalled due to high failure rates and loss of life. The F-111 and the M-16 being two of the most notable. Why were these systems fielded so quickly, corporate greed and kickbacks.
In 1964 Lyndon B Johnson gave us Welfare as we know it today and along with Medicare and Medicaid in 1965. Welfare has done nothing but encourage people not to work and in a time when corporations provided medical insurance to their retirees, allowed these corporations to dump their liabilities onto the federal government.
I could go on and on, but lets face it, when the Greatest Generation came home from WWII and in a few years were put in charge, they sent the US down a path of socialism and unchecked corporate greed. Those that say X/Y generation is the "take care of me generation" it is because of the policies put in place by the Greatest Generation.
As I said earlier the true Greatest Generation is the Vietnam era generation. They are the ones who came home from Vietnam and said "we're not doing that again". Needles to say they changed the laws governing the acquisition of new weapon systems and how we fight wars. Now, systems are fully tested before they go into battle. The F-15 was the first weapon system to go through the full testing system before it was fielded. During Vietnam we were happy with a 4-1 kill ratio and at times we had as low as 12-1. The F-15 has never lost an air to air engagement. The number I've seen is 196-0, but others dispute this number so I can't totally confirm this is the right number, but lets just say they got it right with the F-15.
During Vietnam there were no clear commanders. Every battle would have at least 2-3 different commanders in charge. I'm sure you've heard of the battles between the AF, Army and Navy over who's actually in charge, while guys were dieing on the field. The Goldwater/Nichols Act changed this to where we have one commander per area of operation. How well this worked became very evident during Gulf War 1. Nobody in the US or world had any doubts who was running that war. And the results speak for themselves. I know there are those who will argue that we didn't finish the job, but remember, there was a defined objective and the military accomplished that objective. I wish the objective had been bigger but it wasn't.
As far as the scocialist government the Greatest Generation started. The Vietnam Generation has spent many years trying to reverse this. Even Clinton signed on to welfare reform, which was all started in Wisconsin by Governor Tommy Thompson.
Everyone wonders why we don't have programs like the race to the moon any more. The answer is quite simple; we don't have the money, thanks to all the social programs put in place by the Kennedy and Johnson administrations. It was easy for Kennedy to say lets go to the moon when he didn't have any of the obligations he handed to the next generation.
I could go on and on, but lets face it, the "ME" generation was created by the policies of the Greatest Generation. And the Vietnam Generation is still trying to reverse the wrongs created by them.
However, after spending 20 years in the AF, I heard all the senior guys complaining about the young kids and how they're lazy and not "as good as I was when I was a 2LT". I've got news for all you old guys out there, the curent new generation is better than you were. They have better equipment, they are higher educated, they have just as much motivation. They are going to do a fantastic job, as long as we let them and stay away from turning the country into scocialist republic were nobody has an incentive to work.
I'm sure many of you are going to blast me out of the water, but hear me out first.
The Greatest Generation did some great things but stop and look at some of the other things. They fought WWII and lost several million people while the US lost 292,000 soldiers. Then when they were put in charge they got us involved in Vietnam. Whether we should have gotten involved is not the question. The point is, if you're going to get involved do it right. The Greatest Generation was the ones who botched this one up. They tried the technique of WWII, just throw money and people at the problem. The result; 58,000 dead americans. Additionally, there were 21 new weapon systems fielded in Vietnam, all but 2 had to be recalled due to high failure rates and loss of life. The F-111 and the M-16 being two of the most notable. Why were these systems fielded so quickly, corporate greed and kickbacks.
In 1964 Lyndon B Johnson gave us Welfare as we know it today and along with Medicare and Medicaid in 1965. Welfare has done nothing but encourage people not to work and in a time when corporations provided medical insurance to their retirees, allowed these corporations to dump their liabilities onto the federal government.
I could go on and on, but lets face it, when the Greatest Generation came home from WWII and in a few years were put in charge, they sent the US down a path of socialism and unchecked corporate greed. Those that say X/Y generation is the "take care of me generation" it is because of the policies put in place by the Greatest Generation.
As I said earlier the true Greatest Generation is the Vietnam era generation. They are the ones who came home from Vietnam and said "we're not doing that again". Needles to say they changed the laws governing the acquisition of new weapon systems and how we fight wars. Now, systems are fully tested before they go into battle. The F-15 was the first weapon system to go through the full testing system before it was fielded. During Vietnam we were happy with a 4-1 kill ratio and at times we had as low as 12-1. The F-15 has never lost an air to air engagement. The number I've seen is 196-0, but others dispute this number so I can't totally confirm this is the right number, but lets just say they got it right with the F-15.
During Vietnam there were no clear commanders. Every battle would have at least 2-3 different commanders in charge. I'm sure you've heard of the battles between the AF, Army and Navy over who's actually in charge, while guys were dieing on the field. The Goldwater/Nichols Act changed this to where we have one commander per area of operation. How well this worked became very evident during Gulf War 1. Nobody in the US or world had any doubts who was running that war. And the results speak for themselves. I know there are those who will argue that we didn't finish the job, but remember, there was a defined objective and the military accomplished that objective. I wish the objective had been bigger but it wasn't.
As far as the scocialist government the Greatest Generation started. The Vietnam Generation has spent many years trying to reverse this. Even Clinton signed on to welfare reform, which was all started in Wisconsin by Governor Tommy Thompson.
Everyone wonders why we don't have programs like the race to the moon any more. The answer is quite simple; we don't have the money, thanks to all the social programs put in place by the Kennedy and Johnson administrations. It was easy for Kennedy to say lets go to the moon when he didn't have any of the obligations he handed to the next generation.
I could go on and on, but lets face it, the "ME" generation was created by the policies of the Greatest Generation. And the Vietnam Generation is still trying to reverse the wrongs created by them.
However, after spending 20 years in the AF, I heard all the senior guys complaining about the young kids and how they're lazy and not "as good as I was when I was a 2LT". I've got news for all you old guys out there, the curent new generation is better than you were. They have better equipment, they are higher educated, they have just as much motivation. They are going to do a fantastic job, as long as we let them and stay away from turning the country into scocialist republic were nobody has an incentive to work.
06-22-2008, 06:51 PM
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I can only vouch for my kids- but I'm in agreement with the poster who said this generation is the "entitlement" generation. I have to constantly be on my kids about WORKING for what they want. I hear stories every day from them about friends/kids they know in school/etc where the parents are screwing up because they're giving their kids a free ride. No sense of responsibility or push to go EARN what you want.
Oh, and video games have numbed this generation. 25 year old men ignoring their children to play Halo. Sad.
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Oh, and video games have numbed this generation. 25 year old men ignoring their children to play Halo. Sad.
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06-22-2008, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
sad what is happening to this country...............
I can tell you my generation (im 27) and those that are younger them me are the "entitlement generation". Nobody wants to work hard for anything anymore, they think the DESERVE it. It all started with the huge Self-Esteem kick when I was younger, everyone is special, everyone is great, nobody loses at T-ball. The fact is losing is part of life, and growing up, builds character..............some parents need to know that their kid is a degenerate and is not special and deserves a good slap every now and then.......
"how dare a teacher yell at my kid, she has no right, he only threw a desk at her". In Northern Jersey parents are too concerned about their psychical appearance and their social status, they can't be bothered with raising their kids properly........
ok Im done rant over, angry enough as it is
I can tell you my generation (im 27) and those that are younger them me are the "entitlement generation". Nobody wants to work hard for anything anymore, they think the DESERVE it. It all started with the huge Self-Esteem kick when I was younger, everyone is special, everyone is great, nobody loses at T-ball. The fact is losing is part of life, and growing up, builds character..............some parents need to know that their kid is a degenerate and is not special and deserves a good slap every now and then.......
"how dare a teacher yell at my kid, she has no right, he only threw a desk at her". In Northern Jersey parents are too concerned about their psychical appearance and their social status, they can't be bothered with raising their kids properly........
ok Im done rant over, angry enough as it is
"Listen, kids are like any other group of people, a few winners and a WHOLE lotta losers ... you cant save 'em all ... stop over-protecting them ... todays kids are waaaay too soft" From a comedian, yes. But very true.
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