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Old 07-09-2008 | 05:44 AM
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It's going to be a while before anyone is hiring, So take your time learning, save as much money as you can now because the first year is financially a tough one.
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Old 07-09-2008 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by supersix-4
It's going to be a while before anyone is hiring, So take your time learning, save as much money as you can now because the first year is financially a tough one.
That's exactly what I'm doing actually... although I can't afford to save money right now, I'll be debt free once I'm done with it so that's always a good thing.. I know this CFI at my school, he couldn't take a FO job with a regional because he couldn't afford school loan payments & living expenses with the $19k he'd be making the first year...
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Old 07-09-2008 | 09:19 AM
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Being an FO is what you make of it. Once you make it through training and IOE you have two basic courses you can take.

The first one is pretty easy. You can sit there and watch the world go by. Do your walkarounds, fly your legs, talk on the radio once in a while and go home. This easy way will probably cause you the most headache in the long run.

Better yet, use the time wisely. You're training to be a captain. I like to get involved. If not making the decisions, I like to pick the captain's brain on why they do what they do. Why go left around a storm rather than right? Why did you add the extra 1000 pounds of fuel? Look at the performance books, can you go to 390 at this weight? The captain's getting a cup of coffee at starbucks, the gate agent wants to start boarding but the FAs aren't ready.

Make a choice, then ask what the captain would do if it's their leg. They may override you, but there is likely a good reason. Chances are they have more experience than you, that's why they're in the left seat. Experience is everything. The more you have, and the more you're involved in only means you have more to fall back on when you move to the left seat. The SOP only says so much.

Every captain I have flown with has been more than receptive to this stuff. You'll be ready to go when it's your turn to upgrade or when you go through recurrent.

It's kind of hard to explain that feeling of responsibility. It was downright frightening the first time one of my students looked at me and with that "now what?" look. They're relying on you for your experience and you don't have much. Now, multiply that by 19/35/50/70 (I don't really care what the number is, 1 is enough) and you sort of get an idea of what you're dealing with. I don't take that lightly and I hope that when it's my hide on the line I make the right choices.
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Old 07-09-2008 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ny311
Now that you mention those "what if" moments it reminded me of a post few months ago about "what would you do if your captain goes below minimums" or something like that.. I guess it's a tuff position to be on but I'd assume you learn along the way how to handle those types of situations..no??? I'll look up "Fate is the Hunter" maybe I'll trade in a few cd's i dont listen to anymore at my local book store for books like that one
If there is any doubt, there is no doubt, take the safest course of action. In my cockpit, I expect that you are professional, we both make mistakes. You better call mine out. I tell you that in our CRM brief before we fly. If the landing looks ugly, say "go Around" and I will if I'm PF (pilot flying) just like you will go around if I say "go around". Figure out details later. F/O was great job, rember, the Capt, is the chief blame taker. Help me from making mistakes. You may be inexperienced for a bit or in certain situations, but don't let my complacency (I try to avoid) get either of us in trouble <g>
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