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HectorD 05-31-2009 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by Dubes (Post 619903)
If the fuel is stored in the wing, and that wing snaps, there could be a fire, (I seriously doubt Jet A or 100 LL explodes; it more or less burns).

That was definitely some improper decision-making in the cockpit..

didn't know that.

YouTube - Top Secret! - Pinto scene
:D:D

wrxpilot 05-31-2009 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by Dubes (Post 619903)
If the fuel is stored in the wing, and that wing snaps, there could be a fire, (I seriously doubt Jet A or 100 LL explodes; it more or less burns).

That was definitely some improper decision-making in the cockpit..

So were you there, as an eye witness to the wing snapping off?

Apparently you and I weren't looking at the same video, because the one I was looking at didn't show a wing snapping off.

The pilot of this airplane obviously made a hell of a bad decision to not push the go levers forward after floating more than 1/3 down the runway. But we don't know what he was doing on the wing. Perhaps he was helping passengers evacuate, who knows. I don't, and I seriously doubt anybody here does either.

HectorD 05-31-2009 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by wrxpilot (Post 620294)
So were you there, as an eye witness to the wing snapping off?

Apparently you and I weren't looking at the same video, because the one I was looking at didn't show a wing snapping off.

The pilot of this airplane obviously made a hell of a bad decision to not push the go levers forward after floating more than 1/3 down the runway. But we don't know what he was doing on the wing. Perhaps he was helping passengers evacuate, who knows. I don't, and I seriously doubt anybody here does either.

Sometimes the wing just rips a bit from the bottom and fuel starts leaking out. I have heard that on a mooney for example its critical because it has a "wet wing", instead of being on a bladder (or something like that). I don't know much about the Aztec though.

CrimsonEclipse 05-31-2009 08:30 PM

Came in fast, REAL fast.
Notice the wind sock on the felt side? (and hear the wind)
Also notice the flaps, they were never retracted after touchdown.
May not have saved the plane, but might have helped.

Terrain, winds coming over the hill causing turbulence, might have made the pilot nervous so he added a few knots (like 20) and unfamiliarity with the airport. He was at idle when he passed the camera.

A go around was in order. That much was obvious.

Dubes 05-31-2009 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by wrxpilot (Post 620294)
So were you there, as an eye witness to the wing snapping off?

Apparently you and I weren't looking at the same video, because the one I was looking at didn't show a wing snapping off.

The pilot of this airplane obviously made a hell of a bad decision to not push the go levers forward after floating more than 1/3 down the runway. But we don't know what he was doing on the wing. Perhaps he was helping passengers evacuate, who knows. I don't, and I seriously doubt anybody here does either.

I'm not implying I saw a wing snap in the video, I am just pointing out that if the wing was filled with fuel, there could be a hazardous situation. I wrote that comment in response to a query concerning the dangers involved when standing on a wing, (especially after an incident).

wrxpilot 06-01-2009 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by Dubes (Post 620378)
I'm not implying I saw a wing snap in the video, I am just pointing out that if the wing was filled with fuel, there could be a hazardous situation. I wrote that comment in response to a query concerning the dangers involved when standing on a wing, (especially after an incident).

Since you and I weren't there, it's pretty silly to make a judgment about whether it was a good idea to be standing on the wing or not. That was a pretty quick deceleration once he got off the runway. For all we know, a pax was hurt and he was helping them evacuate.

Ewfflyer 06-01-2009 07:18 AM

Those video's are freaking hilarious!

You guys need to chill out about who's right/wrong. It happened, until it's you we can't all arm-chair QB this one.

CrimsonEclipse 06-01-2009 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by Ewfflyer (Post 620520)
Those video's are freaking hilarious!

You guys need to chill out about who's right/wrong. It happened, until it's you we can't all arm-chair QB this one.

Since we werent' there, ALL we can do is Arm-Chair QB.

CE


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