Climategate Part Deux
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Dont forget to blame the Japanese earthquake on wasteful carbon emissions. Once again:
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1975 Newsweek: The Coming Ice Age | Sweetness & Light
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From: electron wrangler
But the peer review process works:
What they concluded was that there was no such consensus on global
cooling - the results were quite contradictory to this idea, actually...
A survey of the scientific literature has found that between 1965 and 1979,
44 scientific papers predicted warming, 20 were neutral and just 7 predicted cooling...
cooling - the results were quite contradictory to this idea, actually...
A survey of the scientific literature has found that between 1965 and 1979,
44 scientific papers predicted warming, 20 were neutral and just 7 predicted cooling...
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...6014608AAhwst8
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Wherein we examine the history of the proponents and their scientific credentials. Fiction is a weak shadow of the things we experience in real life.
The human condition is full of examples that defy belief, so let us take a look and see what has emerged from the latest scandal.
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Ehrlich’s lifetime of hot air...And he’s been wrong on every count.
The human condition is full of examples that defy belief, so let us take a look and see what has emerged from the latest scandal.

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Ehrlich’s lifetime of hot air...And he’s been wrong on every count.
The imbalance between supply and demand has resulted in two huge spikes in international grain prices since 2007, with some grains more than doubling in cost.
Those price jumps, though felt only moderately in the West, have worsened hunger for tens of millions of poor people, destabilizing politics in scores of countries, from Mexico to Uzbekistan to Yemen. The Haitian government was ousted in 2008 amid food riots, and anger over high prices has played a role in the recent Arab uprisings...
Those price jumps, though felt only moderately in the West, have worsened hunger for tens of millions of poor people, destabilizing politics in scores of countries, from Mexico to Uzbekistan to Yemen. The Haitian government was ousted in 2008 amid food riots, and anger over high prices has played a role in the recent Arab uprisings...
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Well, Ehrlich's timing was off. But just because food riots aren't happening in this country yet doesn't mean they're not happening.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/05/sc...lines&emc=tha2
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/05/sc...lines&emc=tha2
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From: electron wrangler
But the huge indurstrial farms have lobbyists to keep that corporate welfare coming their way.
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Corn ethanol isn't going to survive for the reasons you mentioned and the government subsidies that is keeping the program alive should be redirected to ethanol made from switchgrass or algae which are cost effective and sustainable.
But the huge indurstrial farms have lobbyists to keep that corporate welfare coming their way.
But the huge indurstrial farms have lobbyists to keep that corporate welfare coming their way.
After all, they do end up going to corporations.
Here is a novel idea, let the various forms of energy technology compete on an even playing field, zero subsidies and zero corporate or government(taxpayer) welfare.
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From: electron wrangler
The Earth Is Full
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
Published: June 7, 2011
You really do have to wonder whether a few years from now we’ll look back at the first decade of the 21st century — when food prices spiked, energy prices soared, world population surged, tornados plowed through cities, floods and droughts set records, populations were displaced and governments were threatened by the confluence of it all — and ask ourselves: What were we thinking?
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Something you will never read about at CNN.com:
Changing Tides: Research Center Under Fire for 'Adjusted' Sea-Level Data - FoxNews.com
Changing Tides: Research Center Under Fire for 'Adjusted' Sea-Level Data - FoxNews.com
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From: electron wrangler
0.3mm a year? The thickness of a fingernail? A 1" difference in 100 years?
I doubt that even constitutes a rounding error.
I'm not a scientist and I can't speak to glacial isostatic adjustment but the guy complaining about it isn't a scientist either - he's a lawyer who has a conservative think-tank as a client.
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I doubt that even constitutes a rounding error.
I'm not a scientist and I can't speak to glacial isostatic adjustment but the guy complaining about it isn't a scientist either - he's a lawyer who has a conservative think-tank as a client.
These are not your grandfather’s forest fires...As I write this, more than 700 square miles of Arizona and more than 4,300 square miles of Texas have been swept by monster wildfires. Consider those massive columns of acrid smoke drifting eastward as a kind of smoke signal warning us that a globally warming world is not a matter of some future worst-case scenario. It’s happening right here, right now.
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