Climategate Part Deux
06-18-2011 | 04:25 AM
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0.3mm a year? The thickness of a fingernail? A 1" difference in 100 years?
I doubt that even constitutes a rounding error.
I'm not a scientist and I can't speak to glacial isostatic adjustment but the guy complaining about it isn't a scientist either - he's a lawyer who has a conservative think-tank as a client.
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I doubt that even constitutes a rounding error.
I'm not a scientist and I can't speak to glacial isostatic adjustment but the guy complaining about it isn't a scientist either - he's a lawyer who has a conservative think-tank as a client.
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"Although Western politicians like to blame the dire situation on tree-hugging environmentalists who bring suit to keep loggers from thinning and harvesting the crowded forests, the big picture is far more complicated."
Let see if I can sum up the authors "feelings". Man made global warming is the problem. If we had just not settled the west and left it in its pristine state man made global warming would not cause big forest fires (buffalo good/cows bad; white man bad/native americans good). Fire breaks are bad (but he dont know why). Environmental rules and lawsuits arenet the problem the dirty profiteers are the problem.
06-20-2011 | 04:37 PM
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06-20-2011 | 05:51 PM
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06-21-2011 | 05:03 PM
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0.3mm a year? The thickness of a fingernail? A 1" difference in 100 years?
I doubt that even constitutes a rounding error.
I'm not a scientist and I can't speak to glacial isostatic adjustment but the guy complaining about it isn't a scientist either - he's a lawyer who has a conservative think-tank as a client.
How the West Was Lost: The American West in Flames | | AlterNet
I doubt that even constitutes a rounding error.
I'm not a scientist and I can't speak to glacial isostatic adjustment but the guy complaining about it isn't a scientist either - he's a lawyer who has a conservative think-tank as a client.
How the West Was Lost: The American West in Flames | | AlterNet
I disagree with your statement "I'm not a scientist and I can't speak to glacial isostatic adjustment"--sure you can. Once defined, this is an intuitively obvious concept. If you, as an interested non-scientist, made some observation or argument that invalidated GIA, that would be just as pertinent to the discussion as anything said by NOAA, the SLRG, or anyone else.
GIA seems like a perfectly reasonable concept to bring to a discussion of sea level measurements and predictions. Not really that different from economists talking about 1990 dollars. It is, however, important for the scientists to explain that they are talking about sea level rise relative to 1990 ocean volume (or whatever the standard might be).
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06-25-2011 | 06:31 AM
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Re: Climategate Part Deux
stop ringing. You guys are such a hoot!
The pace of extreme weather events has remained remarkably high during 2011, giving rise to the question--is the "Global Weirding" of 2010 and 2011 the new normal?
Any one of the extreme weather events of 2010 or 2011 could have occurred naturally sometime during the past 1,000 years. But it is highly improbable that the remarkable extreme weather events of 2010 and 2011 could have all happened in such a short period of time without some powerful climate-altering force at work. The best science we have right now maintains that human-caused emissions of heat-trapping gases like CO2 are the most likely cause of such a climate-altering force.
Any one of the extreme weather events of 2010 or 2011 could have occurred naturally sometime during the past 1,000 years. But it is highly improbable that the remarkable extreme weather events of 2010 and 2011 could have all happened in such a short period of time without some powerful climate-altering force at work. The best science we have right now maintains that human-caused emissions of heat-trapping gases like CO2 are the most likely cause of such a climate-altering force.
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06-27-2011 | 06:49 AM
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coaps.fsu.edu | Ryan Maue's Seasonal Tropical Cyclone Activity Update
Amazingly, tropical cyclones for the past couple of years are at an all time low.
Amazingly, tropical cyclones for the past couple of years are at an all time low.
06-27-2011 | 06:09 PM
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Spreading the wealth around
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07-20-2011 | 11:45 AM
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Re: Climategate
Did Rupert Murdoch's News Corp Hack the 2009 ClimateGate Emails?
Did Rupert Murdoch's News Corp Hack the 2009 ClimateGate Emails? - New Orleans Political Buzz | Examiner.com
Two weeks before the Copenhagen Summit on climate change, a server was breached at the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit, known as ClimateGate. Thousands of emails and computer files from the ClimateGate server were copied and sent out to the general public.
To this day, the individual or group responsible has not been caught.
As far as the media went, News Corp and it's affiliates – including Fox News – were all over the supposed “scandal.”
Fox News even falsified opinion polls to make it seem as if most Americans believed there was some type of conspiracy going on...
To this day, the individual or group responsible has not been caught.
As far as the media went, News Corp and it's affiliates – including Fox News – were all over the supposed “scandal.”
Fox News even falsified opinion polls to make it seem as if most Americans believed there was some type of conspiracy going on...
07-20-2011 | 02:05 PM
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To this day, the individual or group responsible has not been caught.
Hmm, I suppose that could mean something else, but lets stay on the story line here.
Did you happen to notice that the New Orleans Examiner is getting their source material from "The Brad Blog".
Some real investigative journalism going on there.
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