new crew rest rules
04-22-2010 | 02:33 PM
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Look how quick this 3 hour tarmac rule came out....but they are ok with those pilots in the cockpit sitting on the tarmac for 3 hours and being on duty for up to 16 hours a day. Personally, I can't wait to make that announcement and go back to the gate..."this is what you folks wanted...."
If you have been waiting for 2 hours 45 minutes and you get to go in 20 minutes, every pilot would return to the gate. Why? Because some ******* in the back will be timing us and if we do not make the 3 hour mark, the company gets sued. So instead of waiting the extra 5 minutes, we return to the gate and the flight gets canceled.
Way to go Congress.
This will probably change when some senators get all their flights canceled because of this law.
The more hard limits that the government puts on pilots, the more flights will have to be canceled.
04-22-2010 | 02:44 PM
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04-22-2010 | 06:14 PM
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04-23-2010 | 05:52 AM
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Unfortunately true. It took 53 deaths in Buffalo to convince Congress they should update the FARs. The reason the results as much as we wanted was due to the resistance by groups like the ATA, RAA and other monied interests.
04-23-2010 | 08:33 AM
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Forget the fact that in the last 5 years along we've had 3 accidents where the NTSB said fatigue was a casual factor.
04-23-2010 | 08:42 AM
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So let me get this straight. New rules that limit the amount of time that we as an airline can keep passengers on the ground have already been passed. These rules will fine an airline $27k per passenger, which equates to a $1.3 mil fine for a 50 seat plane. But, when the FAA finally decides that it shouldn't allow pilots to work a 16 hour day, things slow down because it may cost the airlines too much money.
I guess the easiest way to sum this one up is that a plane full off ****ed off passengers is more important to the current administration than plane full of dead ones.
I guess the easiest way to sum this one up is that a plane full off ****ed off passengers is more important to the current administration than plane full of dead ones.
04-23-2010 | 08:49 AM
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NPRM
PILOT FATIGUE
It isn´t for lack of effort that ALPA and the FAA has been unable to achieve much progress in this battle. It´s been the huge amount of financial muscle they´ve been fighting against that have slowed the progress. Remember how the ATA sued the FAA over their reinterpretation of reserve rest which generated the RAP rules? This is what we are fighting against; Profit margins vs. Aviation Safety
04-23-2010 | 10:12 AM
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So let me get this straight. New rules that limit the amount of time that we as an airline can keep passengers on the ground have already been passed. These rules will fine an airline $27k per passenger, which equates to a $1.3 mil fine for a 50 seat plane. But, when the FAA finally decides that it shouldn't allow pilots to work a 16 hour day, things slow down because it may cost the airlines too much money.
I guess the easiest way to sum this one up is that a plane full off ****ed off passengers is more important to the current administration than plane full of dead ones.
I guess the easiest way to sum this one up is that a plane full off ****ed off passengers is more important to the current administration than plane full of dead ones.
SEND CORRESPONDENCE TO YOUR REPS AND THE WHITE HOUSE. Push this through! There are more of us than there are of "them".
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