Viable TSA option?
11-19-2010 | 04:02 AM
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Viable TSA option?
"Orlando Sanford International Airport has announced that it will opt out of the TSA’s screening program."
http://www.examiner.com/libertarian-...-tsa-screening
http://www.examiner.com/libertarian-...-tsa-screening
11-19-2010 | 06:26 AM
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It will be interesting to see if insurance providers for the airport operator will allow this.
The airport can't really be held responsible if a federal law enforcement agency screws up.
But if they hire private contractors, they will probably buy into some responsibility for their effectiveness...as well as liability for their mistakes.
I'd like to see it happen but we'll have to wait and see.
The airport can't really be held responsible if a federal law enforcement agency screws up.
But if they hire private contractors, they will probably buy into some responsibility for their effectiveness...as well as liability for their mistakes.
I'd like to see it happen but we'll have to wait and see.
11-19-2010 | 08:32 AM
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It boils down to the passengers.
Are they willing to put up with TSA goons? If no, the airports will be willing to Opt-Out on TSA and pay the difference in insurance cost/wages to keep passenger traffic up.
If travelers keep flying, then TSA is here to stay.
Are they willing to put up with TSA goons? If no, the airports will be willing to Opt-Out on TSA and pay the difference in insurance cost/wages to keep passenger traffic up.
If travelers keep flying, then TSA is here to stay.
11-19-2010 | 08:39 AM
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I'd like to see it happen too. But the private contractors will still be required to conduct full-body scans, pat-downs and whatever else TSA guidelines require. No doubt, free-market competition will produce a higher level of customer service and so on. But I think, reqardless of whether or not an airport opts-out of TSA screening, the fight must go on.
There is a real question of the legality of these invasive techniques and whether or not there is a violation of the 4th amendment. And then there is the issue of profiling. El Al doesn't feel that profiling is the same as discrimination and I would have to agree.
Bottom line, TSA needs an overhaul. And airports threatening to opt-out of TSA screening will certainly help the cause.
There is a real question of the legality of these invasive techniques and whether or not there is a violation of the 4th amendment. And then there is the issue of profiling. El Al doesn't feel that profiling is the same as discrimination and I would have to agree.
Bottom line, TSA needs an overhaul. And airports threatening to opt-out of TSA screening will certainly help the cause.
11-19-2010 | 09:07 AM
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11-19-2010 | 09:38 AM
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Lots of great information in that link.
I thought the explanation of constitutional rights was particularly interesting... that the screening is valid under the Fourth Amendment if it is "no more intrusive or intensive than necessary"
So is it necessary? I don't know.. I'm thinking it goes too far. Certainly its a valid question that needs a deeper review.
And the overall attitude of TSA seems to be a core problem as well.
I thought the explanation of constitutional rights was particularly interesting... that the screening is valid under the Fourth Amendment if it is "no more intrusive or intensive than necessary"
So is it necessary? I don't know.. I'm thinking it goes too far. Certainly its a valid question that needs a deeper review.
And the overall attitude of TSA seems to be a core problem as well.
11-20-2010 | 05:32 PM
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Another big factor, along with the insurance/pay, will be equipment cost. If the airport doesn't already have the AIT's they will have to BUY them. And MAINTAIN them. These are not cheap machines to buy, let alone to have techs from the different companies coming down all the time to do routine maintenance or if one breaks down. The airports that 'opt out' will face HUGE increases in their expenditures, that will have to be borne by who? Either the local taxpayers, or b*tch enough to have the Fed's step in and 'grant' them the money, which just means that ALL the taxpayers have to pay for their grandstanding...
11-21-2010 | 10:25 AM
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Lots of great information in that link.
I thought the explanation of constitutional rights was particularly interesting... that the screening is valid under the Fourth Amendment if it is "no more intrusive or intensive than necessary"
So is it necessary? I don't know.. I'm thinking it goes too far. Certainly its a valid question that needs a deeper review.
And the overall attitude of TSA seems to be a core problem as well.
I thought the explanation of constitutional rights was particularly interesting... that the screening is valid under the Fourth Amendment if it is "no more intrusive or intensive than necessary"
So is it necessary? I don't know.. I'm thinking it goes too far. Certainly its a valid question that needs a deeper review.
And the overall attitude of TSA seems to be a core problem as well.
11-21-2010 | 10:46 AM
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So, whats the standard? I reccommend you notify the Rutherford Institute immediately with your insight on case law. They are representing two pilots in a lawsuit that claims their 4th Amendment rights were violated. We wouldn't want them to waste their time.
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