High Speed Rail
#21
Well I agree your letter is expressing your 1st ammendment right, that is very American. I commend you on that. However wasting tax payer money on trains that independent Americans will end up driving themselves UN-American. A family of 4 traveling from New York to Boston will end of driving because it's cheaper and gives them more options. Trains used to be romantic 120 years ago. I will take my Chevrolet.
#22
For me I like to fly on the airlines and I often like to drive myself to my destination when I don't want to have to deal with public transportion.
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From: 737
This works in Japan and Europe because of geography. I'm not a smart man but I can tell you right now with 99.8% certainty that this has no chance of working. Look at it this way...Any city pair within 3 hours...it'll be faster/cheaper just to drive yourself. Any city pair +5 hours...it'll be faster/not much more expensive to fly. Our population centers are too scattered to make this efficient/time saving.
Originally Posted by skidmark
I give up..... Your right we should level the playing field for everyone. Let make sure to hire people from every race, religion, sexual orientation, to operate these trains. We should also allow people to pay for the train ticket according to how much money they make. It's not fair that the guy making 200k pays the same as the guy making 30k. Don't forget international travel, lets make sure we subsidized the ship industry for people who are afraid to fly, but still want to go to Europe. They used to have an infrastructure back when people rode trains.
#25
"In 2004, the Transportation Department evaluated federal transportation subsidies from 1990 to 2002. It found passenger rail service had the highest subsidy ($186.35 per thousand passenger-miles) followed by mass transit ($118.26 per thousand miles). By contrast, drivers received no net subsidy; their fuel taxes more than covered federal spending. Subsidies for airline passengers were about $5 per thousand miles traveled."
That means every time Joe Biden goes from Wilmington to Washington (110 miles), we pay about 20 bucks of his fare. If the airlines had that same level of support, on a LGA to LAX flight,
each airline could PAY EVERY passenger about $300!
(2500 miles @ 18.635 cents per mile = $465 minus $165 one way ticket)
That means every time Joe Biden goes from Wilmington to Washington (110 miles), we pay about 20 bucks of his fare. If the airlines had that same level of support, on a LGA to LAX flight,
each airline could PAY EVERY passenger about $300!
(2500 miles @ 18.635 cents per mile = $465 minus $165 one way ticket)
#26
I propose the government set up a website for those who are interested in HSR to put their personal information on so the government can send them a yearly bill to cover the cost of HSR divided equally among them .
Gets old after a while paying for pie in the sky ideas.

Gets old after a while paying for pie in the sky ideas.
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#28
A recent World Bank report on high-speed rail systems around the world noted that ridership forecasts rarely materialize and warned that "governments contemplating the benefits of a new high-speed railway, whether procured by public or private or combined public-private project structures, should also contemplate the near-certainty of copious and continuing budget support for the debt."
That's certainly what happened in Japan, where only a single bullet-train line, between Japan and Osaka, breaks even; it's what happened in France, where only the Paris-Lyon line is in the black. Taiwan tried a privately financed system, but it ended up losing so much money that the government had to bail it out in 2009.
That's certainly what happened in Japan, where only a single bullet-train line, between Japan and Osaka, breaks even; it's what happened in France, where only the Paris-Lyon line is in the black. Taiwan tried a privately financed system, but it ended up losing so much money that the government had to bail it out in 2009.
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A recent World Bank report on high-speed rail systems around the world noted that ridership forecasts rarely materialize and warned that "governments contemplating the benefits of a new high-speed railway, whether procured by public or private or combined public-private project structures, should also contemplate the near-certainty of copious and continuing budget support for the debt."
That's certainly what happened in Japan, where only a single bullet-train line, between Japan and Osaka, breaks even; it's what happened in France, where only the Paris-Lyon line is in the black. Taiwan tried a privately financed system, but it ended up losing so much money that the government had to bail it out in 2009.
That's certainly what happened in Japan, where only a single bullet-train line, between Japan and Osaka, breaks even; it's what happened in France, where only the Paris-Lyon line is in the black. Taiwan tried a privately financed system, but it ended up losing so much money that the government had to bail it out in 2009.
#30
"In 2004, the Transportation Department evaluated federal transportation subsidies from 1990 to 2002. It found passenger rail service had the highest subsidy ($186.35 per thousand passenger-miles) followed by mass transit ($118.26 per thousand miles). By contrast, drivers received no net subsidy; their fuel taxes more than covered federal spending. Subsidies for airline passengers were about $5 per thousand miles traveled."
That means every time Joe Biden goes from Wilmington to Washington (110 miles), we pay about 20 bucks of his fare. If the airlines had that same level of support, on a LGA to LAX flight,
each airline could PAY EVERY passenger about $300!
(2500 miles @ 18.635 cents per mile = $465 minus $165 one way ticket)
That means every time Joe Biden goes from Wilmington to Washington (110 miles), we pay about 20 bucks of his fare. If the airlines had that same level of support, on a LGA to LAX flight,
each airline could PAY EVERY passenger about $300!
(2500 miles @ 18.635 cents per mile = $465 minus $165 one way ticket)
Sorry if that bursts your bubble, but facts is facts.
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