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Old 06-16-2011, 08:58 PM
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What does your company think of it? Are you allowed to fly on your days off or is it prohibited? Anybody ever gotten in trouble for doing it?
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Depends on the company. Cape doesn't really care.
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No problems here. It was my first question for the CP during my interview, as an aircraft owner obviously I value my time in my own airplane. CP said "no problem" and spent the next few minutes chatting with me about the ins and outs of Saratoga ownership.

Obviously owning/personal flying v. some sort of commercial flying is a totally different ballgame.
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Obviously owning/personal flying v. some sort of commercial flying is a totally different ballgame.
Thanks. What's your company's stance on commercial flying?
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What does your company think of it? Are you allowed to fly on your days off or is it prohibited? Anybody ever gotten in trouble for doing it?
Our policy is no commercial flying unless authorized by the DO.Never heard of anyone getting in trouble for it.
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Thanks. What's your company's stance on commercial flying?
None permitted without permission.
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Old 06-17-2011, 04:20 AM
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Yes but with permission and good luck getting that as short staffed as we are. You'd have more luck with Shannon Tweed right now. They want the ability to use every second of your 1000 hrs.
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Had a buddy who was the chief instructor at a flight school while working for an airline that wouldnt give him permission to fly elsewhere. He would instruct, fill out two reciepts, one for ground training and one for aircraft rental. He didnt log any of the flght time. This way there was no paper trail. Not endorsing his actions... simply stating what happened.
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Let a single incident happen with him in the plane, and the FAA pulls the logbooks of all his "ground instruction" students, prove he was flying with them, then pull his logbooks and nail him for multiple 30/7 violations and fraudulent entries. He'd have his license pulled for at least 12 months and be denied an ATP on the "good moral character" clause. Not worth it at all!

I think all companies forbid outside commercial flying without prior approval. Getting approval depends on how heavily your company uses it's people. Most regionals fly you 80+ hours a month, pushing the 1,000 hours/year limit, and therefore don't allow it.
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Let a single incident happen with him in the plane, and the FAA pulls the logbooks of all his "ground instruction" students, prove he was flying with them, then pull his logbooks and nail him for multiple 30/7 violations and fraudulent entries. He'd have his license pulled for at least 12 months and be denied an ATP on the "good moral character" clause. Not worth it at all!

I think all companies forbid outside commercial flying without prior approval. Getting approval depends on how heavily your company uses it's people. Most regionals fly you 80+ hours a month, pushing the 1,000 hours/year limit, and therefore don't allow it.
Well it's been a long time, but the way I understood it was that if you didn't charge for your instruction then it doesn't count as commercial time. That why a lot of people charge for ground time and not flight time.

Odds are that I am wrong but it seems legit.
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