F-16s Intercept 75 Year Old Pilot
08-16-2011, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
What is this about an autopilot and a TFR? VERY little use of the autopilot - mostly hand-flying - and that is a good thing.
I can't engage my auto-pilot when TFR is active...250', in the rocks, at night, IMC...maybe you do need that intercept radar after all! 
Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
We have TTPs for escorting Helos that would work just fine for escorting a slow moving GA out the area if it were required.
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We digress...the original question was why not A-10s for intercept work as they're better able to deal with the low/slow 'unknown rider' and I don't think the lack of an intercept radar is as much an obstacle as the relative LD/HD aspect of the Hog (and the distinct lack of dash speed - no offense to my Hog brothers). But ya gotta admit, that big ol' GAU-8 staring at you is a fair bit intimidating...
08-16-2011, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by LowSlowT2
But ya gotta admit, that big ol' GAU-8 staring at you is a fair bit intimidating...
The A-10 has always been something I've enjoyed, in fact one out of FWA flew over today at about 300-400'AGL. I grew up watching them fly over-head and have mock attacks on local barns, and loved every second of it. Glad to have them back in Indiana!
08-16-2011, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ewfflyer
One of the main things I was thinking, nothing like a gatling-gun to make a point known!
08-16-2011, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by LowSlowT2
Terrain Following Radar - most fast movers do it on auto-pilot... I can't engage my auto-pilot when TFR is active...250', in the rocks, at night, IMC...maybe you do need that intercept radar after all!
We digress...the original question was why not A-10s for intercept work as they're better able to deal with the low/slow 'unknown rider' and I don't think the lack of an intercept radar is as much an obstacle as the relative LD/HD aspect of the Hog (and the distinct lack of dash speed - no offense to my Hog brothers). But ya gotta admit, that big ol' GAU-8 staring at you is a fair bit intimidating...
Yes - it is very intimidating and it can shoot you from A LONG WAY AWAY!USMCFLYR
08-17-2011, 07:03 AM
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So, if one of you guys had shot this old lady out of the sky, do you get to paint a meatball symbol on the side of your aircraft? Or, maybe paint a J3 cub bear?
08-17-2011, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
Ah....Not familiar. We didn't use it. I knew the ole' Aardvarks used it but the current crop of Naval Flighter Attack don't use TFR. Funny - - I knew you didn't mean TFR as in Temporary Flight Restriction but in my current job I couldn't get it out of my mind.
Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
As far as that GAU-8 goes, we had a Warthog exchange pilot come instruct in the Hornet. The first time he fired the gun he said he thought it was broke becaues the airplane didn't shake and shutter and feel like it was coming apart around him. He reckoned it more of a pea shooter than a real gun
08-17-2011, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by LowSlowT2
I know the LANTIRN setup will get you down to about 200ft, but believe it's all auto-pilot. Ours only goes to 250ft, but is hand flown. Lower is NVG only and hand flown, but then we're only doing 240kts GS...not 500+.
One of the craziest thing I remember doing was LATT (Low Altitude Tactics Training - 200' at 400+ kts with 3D maneuvering) at night on NVGs
It starts to fall into that ' when are we going to use this' category, but someone will come up with a scenario 
First night of IOF had a lowlevel, night time, Mk-77 attack. Who'd have figured?USMCFLYR
08-17-2011, 10:04 PM
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We no longer do LATT at night. We do strafe at night but with a higher minalt. There is a low alt strafe but very few squadron CO's will allow their guys to train to it. For the one or two instances I've heard of it being used in combat, 100 HAZREPS have been generated of guys nearly hitting the ground.
BTW, the Hornet has no terrain following mode or radar. No LANTIRN pod. Even use of Altitude Hold mode of the auto pilot is prohibited below 500'.
BTW, the Hornet has no terrain following mode or radar. No LANTIRN pod. Even use of Altitude Hold mode of the auto pilot is prohibited below 500'.
08-18-2011, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
We no longer do LATT at night. We do strafe at night but with a higher minalt. There is a low alt strafe but very few squadron CO's will allow their guys to train to it. For the one or two instances I've heard of it being used in combat, 100 HAZREPS have been generated of guys nearly hitting the ground.
BTW, the Hornet has no terrain following mode or radar. No LANTIRN pod. Even use of Altitude Hold mode of the auto pilot is prohibited below 500'.
BTW, the Hornet has no terrain following mode or radar. No LANTIRN pod. Even use of Altitude Hold mode of the auto pilot is prohibited below 500'.
Who is the 'We' in this sentence?
I was unaware that the USN ever did night LATT. I had never heard of anyone in the fleet doing it.
My example was contributed to the Marine 'D' community, who was training to night LATT when I left the fleet last. Are you saying that they are no longer conducting night LATT?
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08-18-2011, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
Grumble -
Who is the 'We' in this sentence?
I was unaware that the USN ever did night LATT. I had never heard of anyone in the fleet doing it.
My example was contributed to the Marine 'D' community, who was training to night LATT when I left the fleet last. Are you saying that they are no longer conducting night LATT?
USMCFLYR
Who is the 'We' in this sentence?
I was unaware that the USN ever did night LATT. I had never heard of anyone in the fleet doing it.
My example was contributed to the Marine 'D' community, who was training to night LATT when I left the fleet last. Are you saying that they are no longer conducting night LATT?
USMCFLYR
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