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Old 08-18-2011, 09:34 AM
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If the Marines are still doing it, this is the first I've heard of it. I had some CO's and old crusty DH's in the fleet that had trained to it way before my time, all said they hated it. I couldn't tell you how long it's been since the RAG taught it. They're scared enough letting CAT 1's do it during the day.
I don't know if they STILL are doing it, but they were and it was the only sub-community of the Hornets that I ever knew that did it in the first place.
I sure that the RAGS did not teach it from 1994 on through 2010. Like you said - doing LATT with someone who has 25 hrs in the Hornet was interesting enough, plus the RAGs didn't even start introducing NVGs until the 2000 timeframe or so.

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Old 08-19-2011, 07:26 AM
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What I think is odd is a person who is so obviously uneducated in this particular area of practice, who seems to be a conspiracy theorist, or worse case - trolling web boards, keeps coming back for virtual lashings, and continues to show the rest of us his/her misguided ramblings.
Is that what's happening here - I'm being virtually lashed? Shouldn't there be some virtual pain with a virtual lashing?

As we spend hundreds of billions of dollars on our national security apparatus every year, don't you think it's strange that, even having rehearsed the very scenario, our superior forces fall totally flat when the flag goes up?

Well, the Chairmen and Vice Chairman of the 9-11 commission have stated in writing that they believe they were lied to by the Pentagon, NORAD and the FAA:

Fog of war could explain why some people were confused on the day of 9/11, but it could not explain why all of the after-action reports, accident investigations and public testimony by FAA and NORAD officials advanced an account of 9/11 that was untrue...
9/11 panel's book assails Pentagon - US news - Security - msnbc.com
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Old 08-19-2011, 08:04 AM
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Ask and answered.

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Old 08-19-2011, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by N2264J View Post
Is that what's happening here - I'm being virtually lashed? Shouldn't there be some virtual pain with a virtual lashing?

As we spend hundreds of billions of dollars on our national security apparatus every year, don't you think it's strange that, even having rehearsed the very scenario, our superior forces fall totally flat when the flag goes up?

Well, the Chairmen and Vice Chairman of the 9-11 commission have stated in writing that they believe they were lied to by the Pentagon, NORAD and the FAA:



9/11 panel's book assails Pentagon - US news - Security - msnbc.com

You seriously just quoted MSNBC as your reference, on something military/defense related? Maybe you should listen to the guys on this board that have actually flown fighers and stood alert, rather than a bunch of reporters getting their facts from wikipedia.

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Old 08-19-2011, 04:41 PM
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You seriously just quoted MSNBC as your reference, on something military/defense related? Maybe you should listen to the guys on this board that have actually flown fighers and stood alert, rather than a bunch of reporters getting their facts from wikipedia.

Agreed. Or at least call Tim Martens and let him fill you in. I suspect the two of you would have a lot to talk about...

(That's not a good thing, by the way)
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Old 08-20-2011, 07:35 AM
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You seriously just quoted MSNBC as your reference, on something military/defense related?
Actually, MSNBC was reporting on a book by Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton.

Do you know who those guys are?
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Old 08-20-2011, 07:42 AM
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Mod Note:

I know who those two guys are and I also know this thread has drifted too far and too long from the original topic of F-16s intercepting a little old lady.

Find something non-political to discuss.

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