There is a problem, because i thought that title belonged to Gojets.

What do you do when you have to tell your family, that you no longer have your job?

Will you mention that there are places that probably could employ you with comparable pay, but you wont apply because of the potential misguided and uninformed backlash from members on APC? What would their reactions be?

Would you rather collect unemployment in the same way a single 19 year old mother with no HS diploma collects welfare/food-stamps?

What do you do when more companies start hiring and at your interview you have to explain why you chose to stay unemployed instead of finding gainful employment?

What to do...Be a bum for now, which may be a potentially long time, or apply to a regional like Republic, or even worse, gojets?
What to do...

I think its very classy how someone with a job, will tell someone that has just lost their job to not apply somewhere because it may affect that persons qol.But what do i know?

 

Dunno if this is the right forum, but I'd like give a big shout-out to the RAH pilots who made sure that I got on the jumpseat today as I commuted home from LGA. You guys are a class act!

 

Agreed. Any RAH pilot who seriously thinks this strategy should work needs to resign themselves. Very hypocritical given how many mainline jobs they have gladly taken by upgrading to bigger RJs.

KC

 

Oh yeah, I forgot, BB asked me what plane to order. I said "E-190s but make 'em 99 seats so we can continue making crap pay and watch jobs at decent companies disappear in smoke."

Thanks for reminding me. You should clarify your definition of "they". If "they" is pilots, then surely we must be able to get ourselves some work rules and pay raises while we are ordering all these aircraft. Or if "they" doesn't include pilots, then why should pilots resign?

 

Whats the problem? The pilot shortage is just around the corner.

 

And this is the reason I have 25 posts because getting into a endless debate on the internet is not my style. Expressjet, Skywest, ASA, Air Wisconsin, Compass, PSA, Piedmont are all airlines that are hiring, and most pay better than RAH. Maybe I would exhaust options elsewhere before applying here.

You are right I stand corrected GOJet might be worse.

I am only trying to get the facts out there that is all.

 

I know there are a lot of sides/dynamics to this so I'll elaborate:

Almost, scope has been relaxed at UAL since the 90's when we gave up 50 seat RJs for the promise of some 400s. Then in BK more was given to protect pensions, which was taken away. ALPA's screw up, agreed.

Well, fast forward a few years and now all these oursourced RJ outfits are fighting over the scraps as oil and consolidation make the RJ less viable. I don't want to paint with a broad brush as I now a lot of good guys/gals at the regionals who simply want to pay their bills, build time and get hired on at a major (hopefully soon).

To the rest who think they are entitled to bigger and bigger RJs, who see their RJ outfit as a career end all to itself and now want to tell a CFI or furloughed pilot not to come work at their airline because it does not benefit them? Talk about selfishness.

Kc

 

They=RAH pilots

As I said, I think you should all resign and restore some jobs back to mainline. Sounds just about as ridiculous as telling somebody not to come work for RAH.

Either way, good luck with the lawsuit and subsequent TRO. Even if you win and end up with a rich contract, it will be short lived. Comair and ACA also got too big for their britches and look what happened.

 

Come work here and pass on all the other regionals. That makes sense.

 

Just to belabor my point. If "they=RAH Pilots" THEN, "they" that order planes and steal jobs can get a smoking good contract because all we have to do is wish it, just like we clamor for our dirtbag leadership to turn seats into tray tables. I wonder why, then, we've been struggling to get a CBA for the past 5 years (this month).

Thanks for reminding us about other companies that got "to big for their britches", because using your logic I can't even warn a fellow aviator that such a future might exist for them at RAH. I don't happen to think we'll get a great contract, but I do think we'll strike for one, and/or fight the company to the bitter end.

By further extension of your logic, since no one should be warned away from employment here, all 3000 of us resigning, would just result in 3000 new pilots being recruited to replace us and the ellusive mainline jobs we take...

Anyone that comes here now should be prepared to endure sham furloughs and other tactics employed by the company in lead up to a strike. When I look and see that they were hired from March 2012-CBA date, I will assume they knew what they were doing when they signed on, were prepared for a furlough or firing, and I'll be hesitant to donate/help them out during/after a strike.