ERJ135

I'm curious as to what jetblue pilots think of this RAH agreement to fly the E190's. I'd be a little nervous that Jetblue would be next. E190's flown for even less pay. Can't be good be an E190 operator. I still think your managment cares more about their quality of product then getting the cheapest deal. However, if midwest or AMR, UAL, managers ever found their way over there. Might not be good. Has their been any talk of getting a union going again. If nothing else it should show the importance of a CBA to secure an airtight scope clause. Just something to think about.

alvrb211

Next for what?

Are you suggesting that B6 are going to furlough E190 pilots "out of seniority" and start training RAH guys?

I don't think B6 want relatively inexperienced RAH guys on the property.

Wakeup call for Jetblue?

"If" all the regionals started flying E190's, it would affect "all" majors who operate equipment like the DC9, B717, MD80, B737, A318/19/20, etc.

Pay/conditions at the regionals would still suck and the regional guys would all be stuck there.



JJ

av8tordude

This is a very asinine statement. RAH, along with other regional airlines, have highly experience and qualified pilots flying the friendly skies. In some case, have more experience pilots then B6 pilots! As a matter of fact, B6 has had hired interns in the past! So, before you go bad mouthing a fellow Pilot, Don your oxygen mask before you make donkey statemest like this!

ZapBrannigan

Be serious. Jetblue actually has minimum hiring requirements. Republic hires anyone with a pulse who can recognize an RJ on the ramp 2 out of 3 times.

320ToBearz

Republic Holdings also fosters an atmosphere of "fatiguing" pilots as the NTSB stated in its CLE overrun report.

It is not as "safe" as jetBlue.

FlyerJosh

Not to pour gasoline on the fire, but wasn't JetBlue the company that wanted duty exemptions to conduct roundtrip coast to coast day trips?

Fact is that airline management will get away with anything that we the pilots, the feds, or the paying public will allow. It doesn't matter who you work for...

Pilots at JetBlue aren't the only ones who should be concerned over continual reductions in scope. However if I was a B6 pilot who didn't have the scope protections of other carriers, I certainly would be moving to get them. If I were a mainline pilot at a different carrier, I would always be looking to improve the scope clauses.

Rightseat Ballast

Jet Blue DOES hire RAH pilots, even the inexperienced ones. As an example, one of my new hire classmates at RAH was hired after 1 year, having never sat left seat. He had some SAAB time as well, but no PIC time in that aircraft either.

RAH has not set a payrate for the E190 yet. How do you know that it will be less than Jet Blue? In all likelihood, it will be lower than Jet Blue, but not by a margin that will make Jet Blue management run to have RAH fly E190's for them.

The way the fatigue and sickness policies were applied that resulted in the CLE accident were actually not system wide at RAH, but rather limited to the managers at Shuttle America. On the Republic certificate, I have never felt any such pressure. We are all one company, but we have different DO's, different CP's, and different POI's. The Shuttle side was being poorly run.

RAH has no involvement with Jet Blue, and Jet Blue does not deal with regional carriers except on a very limited and temporary basis (express Jet). RAH will not have any affiliation with Jet Blue.

Please use that grey stuff between your ears before you post here.

TurboCheez

I thought JetBlue had several pilots on furlough. Yesterday I was told by a JetBlue executive they are accepting resumes at a pilot job fair. Any JB pilots know anything about that?

alvrb211

Badmouthing?????????

I didn't think many pilots at RAH came from other major carriers, were used to flying 100 seaters or larger aircraft, were cat 3 qualified, or LVTO trained. I also didn't think they were qualified to fly international, overwater, or class 2 nav routes.....etc.

For some reason, I just don't see B6 sending their passengers down to Costa Rica with a couple of RAH pilots anytime soon.


Are you so insecure that you equate "relative inexperience" with "badmouthing"?



JJ

Carl Spackler

Correct me if I'm wrong, but B6 can do more than that. They can remove the pilot from the property by not renewing his/her contract - then start training a RAH guy or any other guy.

Carl