Can you post the provision contained in your company manual that verifies your statement in the definition of the duty and responsibility of a captain, or first officer???

I gotta tell ya Floobs, I’ve never seen that statement in any FOM, GOM, COM of any carrier I’ve flown for, both foreign and domestic. I’m impressed that the FAA would approve that language in your manual:rolleyes:. Hey maybe our DO can insert that language into our FOM. Until then, my duties and responsibilities to my crewmembers are in affect from the time I report for duty until I sign off back at base.

Actually at b6 we don’t have to be there for
Boarding or deplaning. If the plane is powered down (over two hours) or just secured we are free to leave. They wanted to start boarding without us being there so they put that in there about deplaning as well.

Yes other airlines as well, including DAL. Don't have to be there for boarding/de-planing as long as the A/C is properly secured.

Why would the FAA care what a company puts in it's manual about how company employees interact while not aboard the aircraft? Once the the passengers are, deplaned, the logbook signed, the aircraft is powered down and transferred to the ground crews and the crew is in the terminal, walking away, why would the FAA care if the GOM instructs them to all hold hands to the hotel, or scatter to the 4 winds? The FAA has no compelling interest nor jurisdiction at that point.

The FAA does have a vested interest that crewmembers are in compliance, with their duties and responsibilities, I/A/W the Company’s GOM. Conversely, while not mandatory, unless so stated in the GOM, its up to the Captain, if they so desire, to ensure the rest of the crew is provided for. Personally, I’m the last one of the jet, boarding the crew van, and to check in at the hotel. Those new to the airline, or the industry observe my interaction with the cabin crew line training. Consideration, which does go both ways for the most part, goes a long way... that’s all. Nothing to get one’s knickers in a twist... wouldn’t you agree A Squared?

Uh-huh, but as far as the FAA is concerned, their duties and responsibilities have ended when they are walking away from the airplane.



Suppose that an Airline submitted a GOM to the FAA which contained the statement that once the crew had left the airplane in accordance with their duties and responsibilities, the individuals were on their own recognizance as adults, and the captain had no authority over, or responsibility to them.



What possible basis would the FAA have for objection to that? What jurisdiction would the FAA even have for dictating internal HR policies during times when the crew is not operating the airplane?

ATW. filler

That hotel has gone downhill fast. That said, sorry to hear about that. It’s such a shame that many will try and do anything to help offline pilots, while a few just **** all that effort away.

The AA guys behind us in ORD today. Ground told us to hold and give way to two incoming aircraft. The AA guy behind us; "We dont stop in ORD you guys!"

We do when were told to give way to traffic you tool.

Oh brother. Slow day in the thread. 🙄