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LNL76 08-27-2013 05:30 AM

..."spectacles, testicles, wallet and watch" was the first thing that came to mind when I read your post. :p :D

btw, you use a paper checklist? I have mine in my phone calendar! Nothing wrong with checklists! :)









Originally Posted by ForeverFO (Post 1470971)
NEVER flown with more than 1 pants. Except for that IOE incident, never had a pants failure.

I DO have a paper checklist of "stuff" I need for a trip. Pretty sad, but my more senior brain cells are starting to fail.

- Company ID
- Wallet
- iPad
- Passport

etc. I even have emergency cash in my headset pouch. Enough for a steak and a beer on a layover.


ForeverFO 08-27-2013 06:47 AM

Yes, the amount of crap necessary to pull off a successful trip can be way too high, but creature comforts are important.

The company stuff alone is way too much. I've got a plotter, still new in wrap, that is 25 years old. Never used it, but it's apparently necessary for the safety of flight.

Alterbridge 08-27-2013 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by LNL76 (Post 1470615)
Glad to see I'm not the only one who checks their ID (and passport) numerous times both before leaving home as well as at airports/hotels. :o


My ex used to say that I looked like I was doing the Macarena when checking for the crap in front pockets, back pocket and around my neck. I was simply doing a verbal count--keys=1, passport=2...

I'll do it a couple of times in the hotel room before putting the baggage puzzle together, and then I'll do it again after the puzzle is complete.

The one time I didn't do it at home, I had done the 35 minute drive to the lot and rode the 15 minutes to the terminal to find out I had forgotten my ID.

badflaps 08-27-2013 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by ForeverFO (Post 1471041)
Yes, the amount of crap necessary to pull off a successful trip can be way too high, but creature comforts are important.

The company stuff alone is way too much. I've got a plotter, still new in wrap, that is 25 years old. Never used it, but it's apparently necessary for the safety of flight.

It gives you a pretty good edge, painting around the house.

ForeverFO 08-27-2013 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by Squawk2112 (Post 1470433)

The article in question was written in response to a "real" dating blog:

Top 6 reasons you should date a pilot

The response is definitely a gag piece and and is subtle satire... even the paragraphs/topics perfectly match the dating blog. No toolishness detected. The latter, the "real" piece, is toolish in the extreme, but written by the girlfriend of a pilot.

LNL76 08-27-2013 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by Alterbridge (Post 1471073)
My ex used to say that I looked like I was doing the Macarena when checking for the crap in front pockets, back pocket and around my neck. I was simply doing a verbal count--keys=1, passport=2...

I'll do it a couple of times in the hotel room before putting the baggage puzzle together, and then I'll do it again after the puzzle is complete.

The one time I didn't do it at home, I had done the 35 minute drive to the lot and rode the 15 minutes to the terminal to find out I had forgotten my ID.

"The Macarena," now that was hysterical and was a great visual!! :D




Originally Posted by ForeverFO (Post 1471118)
The article in question was written in response to a "real" dating blog:

Top 6 reasons you should date a pilot

The response is definitely a gag piece and and is subtle satire... even the paragraphs/topics perfectly match the dating blog. No toolishness detected. The latter, the "real" piece, is toolish in the extreme, but written by the girlfriend of a pilot.

I thought both articles were cute and contained lots of truth. :)

DirectTo 08-27-2013 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by LNL76 (Post 1470989)
..."spectacles, testicles, wallet and watch" was the first thing that came to mind when I read your post. :p :D

Damn! Beat me to it.

I do it every time I walk out the door, keys, phone, wallet, watch. Easy.

cardiomd 08-27-2013 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by RandomPilot (Post 1470854)
I think it's pretty clearly tongue-in-cheek. It's dripping with sarcasm, so I'd give the guy a break.

+1, it is a semi-funny satire like a lot of British/Aussie features, part true, part exaggeration. It is a cultural thing. Do you find Monty Python funny? Some people do, a lot of people, particularly Americans don't.

"He or she may already have a drinking buddy listed as 'domestic partner' so they can take free trips to Vegas" or "you might get bumped from the flight and go home with the memory of being harassed by a security guard - for free!"

Justdoinmyjob 08-28-2013 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by bbhnpd (Post 1470539)
I call BS on this.

July, 1995. Second trip off IOE at ASA. I walked out to the plane and Bill J. was standing at the top of the stairs and informed me I was 3 minutes late and that I was off the trip. I said "OK," we had some words, and then I picked up my bag and walked back to the crew lounge. BJ came running after me and said he was only kidding. Never had an issue with him again.

FWIW, flying airplanes was a third career for me, after the military and working in the finance industry. At 30 years old at the time, I didn't take crap off of anybody then, and don't now.

Doug Masters 08-28-2013 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1471930)
July, 1995. Second trip off IOE at ASA. I walked out to the plane and Bill J. was standing at the top of the stairs and informed me I was 3 minutes late and that I was off the trip. I said "OK," we had some words, and then I picked up my bag and walked back to the crew lounge. BJ came running after me and said he was only kidding. Never had an issue with him again.

FWIW, flying airplanes was a third career for me, after the military and working in the finance industry. At 30 years old at the time, I didn't take crap off of anybody then, and don't now.

You mean Beal?

80ktsClamp 08-28-2013 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by ForeverFO (Post 1471041)
Yes, the amount of crap necessary to pull off a successful trip can be way too high, but creature comforts are important.

The company stuff alone is way too much. I've got a plotter, still new in wrap, that is 25 years old. Never used it, but it's apparently necessary for the safety of flight.

Does AA require a plotter?

buzzpat 08-28-2013 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by ForeverFO (Post 1471041)
Yes, the amount of crap necessary to pull off a successful trip can be way too high, but creature comforts are important.

The company stuff alone is way too much. I've got a plotter, still new in wrap, that is 25 years old. Never used it, but it's apparently necessary for the safety of flight.

A plotter? Holy crap. I think I had one in 1945 when we were bombing Dresden.

ShyGuy 08-28-2013 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1472116)
Does AA require a plotter?

I know what you mean. I pack an E6B just in case Fifi's magical computers stop working.

ForeverFO 08-29-2013 07:10 AM

Yes, AA still requires FO's to carry a plotter. Don't ask me why.

We're also required to have a wristwatch, but I've blown that off totally and now use my cell phone and iPad. It's not like there aren't 10,000 clocks everywhere we go.

And now that my old man eyes have caught up with me, I have to add a handful of cheater glasses to the "must have" list.

MrMustache 08-29-2013 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by ForeverFO (Post 1472659)
Yes, AA still requires FO's to carry a plotter. Don't ask me why.

We're also required to have a wristwatch, but I've blown that off totally and now use my cell phone and iPad. It's not like there aren't 10,000 clocks everywhere we go.

And now that my old man eyes have caught up with me, I have to add a handful of cheater glasses to the "must have" list.

It's amazing how antiquated AA seems sometimes.

121PyLut 08-29-2013 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1466074)
I thought you were supposed to do that, and then tie them in a bow, around your neck! :eek:

Or am I the only one doing it right? :D


Now, that right there is funny!!

Justdoinmyjob 08-29-2013 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by Doug Masters (Post 1472004)
You mean Beal?


The one and only!

Mephesto 08-29-2013 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by ForeverFO (Post 1472659)
Yes, AA still requires FO's to carry a plotter. Don't ask me why.

We're also required to have a wristwatch...

Seriously.....?


Originally Posted by MrMustache (Post 1472669)
It's amazing how antiquated AA seems sometimes.

Indeed. The whole "gear up" hand signal from the noisy DC-3 cockpit days....using QFE up until about 15 years ago (pretty sure they had radar altimeters by then)...captains doing all the PAs, even when taxiing.

It really is like taking a step back in time.

Navmode 08-31-2013 09:05 PM


Charter customer in Kansas, watches with the FBO rampers while the pilots load bags for 12 into the back. As soon as we close the door, customer turns to the ramper and hands him a big wad of cash for a tip. Ramper walks inside. Um... wow. I don't care if you tip me, but why him? He just stood out here long enough to get a tip and walk away. If I had thought about it, I'd taken the wheel chocks he left in as souvenirs.
---
Customs in PBI. So [redacted story]. :D ;)
Both sum up the last 3 years of my life

DeadHead 09-06-2013 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by Planespotta (Post 1478311)
What a rotorhead...

^^^^^^^^^^^This Guy^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
(Taken from another thread)

cardiomd 09-16-2013 04:44 PM

From this article (very well-meaning, but kind of ridiculous)
http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/...air-travel/?hp

This commenter:


Steve D.Cambridge, MA
Surprised no one has mentioned Channel 9. United lets passengers listen to cockpit-tower communications, at least on old UAL metal. Not sure whether they will keep this or eliminate it (more likely) as they replace the fleet post-merger. There are many moments of openness including pilots angry at gate personnel (heard this at SFO once when we were kept waiting after being promised a gate). The most revealing moment was hearing a pilot repeatedly get our flight's identifying number wrong and have to be corrected by the towers. This happened more than once during the flight. I called to report it and never heard back from the airline regarding any actions taken. This is what makes me think Channel 9 will be dropped - too much liability.
Sept. 15, 2013 at 10:12 p.m.

RockyBoy 09-21-2013 05:29 PM

DTW 320 CA who does his PA in the cabin and says he is military but the FO is civilian. He then reassures the pax that Delta HR does a great job and that the civilian guy had training and experience that met Delta standards.

NuGuy 09-21-2013 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1488235)
DTW 320 CA who does his PA in the cabin and says he is military but the FO is civilian. He then reassures the pax that Delta HR does a great job and that the civilian guy had training and experience that met Delta standards.

Soooo, at the end of the trip, did "the FO" call him out on it?

Nu

seoceancrosser 09-21-2013 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1488235)
DTW 320 CA who does his PA in the cabin and says he is military but the FO is civilian. He then reassures the pax that Delta HR does a great job and that the civilian guy had training and experience that met Delta standards.

Saw a MD88 captain do the same thing the other day. He even came into the terminal to give one of his many announcements. Even though he was pushing to make a slot time he still found time to give his resume over the PA about flying F 14s on and off some boats.

Senior Skipper 09-21-2013 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1488235)
DTW 320 CA who does his PA in the cabin and says he is military but the FO is civilian. He then reassures the pax that Delta HR does a great job and that the civilian guy had training and experience that met Delta standards.

I'd challenge that assertion after that PA:rolleyes:

DCA A321 FO 09-21-2013 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1488235)
DTW 320 CA who does his PA in the cabin and says he is military but the FO is civilian. He then reassures the pax that Delta HR does a great job and that the civilian guy had training and experience that met Delta standards.

That's just rude, and I am military.

ExAF 10-02-2013 06:38 AM

Deadheading Apeman
 
The large man in the center seat next to me in the window seat while deadheading. Large enough to spill over both sides of his seat and figured it was OK to wear shorts and a tank top shirt so his very hairy arms, shoulder and legs could rub against you while he invaded the space of the seats on either side.:mad: At least he didn't stink.:rolleyes: I felt so slimed after that flight.:eek:

ForeverFO 10-02-2013 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by ExAF (Post 1494986)
I felt so slimed after that flight.:eek:

One reason why dead head legs are sooooo despised. Nothing like boarding a 99% full flight with a rollaboard and 40 lb kit bag, in a wool uniform in the summer, to find the overheads 110% full, and the empty center seat surrounded by fatties or weirdos, who roll their eyes because they have to share.

15 years ago, there seemed to be always some first class seats available. Now, there's an upgrade waiting list a dozen names long for first.

freezingflyboy 10-02-2013 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by ForeverFO (Post 1495010)
15 years ago, there seemed to be always some first class seats available. Now, there's an upgrade waiting list a dozen names long for first.

Hell, when it's down to a dozen I start to get optimistic!

scambo1 10-03-2013 04:34 AM


Originally Posted by ExAF (Post 1494986)
The large man in the center seat next to me in the window seat while deadheading. Large enough to spill over both sides of his seat and figured it was OK to wear shorts and a tank top shirt so his very hairy arms, shoulder and legs could rub against you while he invaded the space of the seats on either side.:mad: At least he didn't stink.:rolleyes: I felt so slimed after that flight.:eek:

I sat next to the female version of your apeman once...a full cellphone length of blubber on my side of the armrest. Anyway, let's hope they don't randomly meet and get all sparkly eyed.

Crazy Canuck 10-03-2013 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by cardiomd (Post 1485143)
From this article (very well-meaning, but kind of ridiculous)
http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/...air-travel/?hp

This commenter:

'Called to report it?'

Dear God...he'd be calling my boss on every flight. This guy needs to be given an apple and told to chill. Yes one should not get the flight number wrong but it's really not a reportable offense.

Now excuse me while I go roll my eyes

TBucket 10-03-2013 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck (Post 1495604)
'Called to report it?'

Dear God...he'd be calling my boss on every flight. This guy needs to be given a sharp blow to the head and told to chill. Yes one should not get the flight number wrong but it's really not a reportable offense.

Now excuse me while I go roll my eyes


Fixed that for ya.

Mephesto 10-24-2013 10:13 AM

I always thought guarding the flap handle and/or prompting the flying pilot "You want flaps?" ranked pretty high on the scale of toolish behavior, but I just recently flew with an FO who raised it to a whole new level.

We would be descending and slowing, and he would raise his arm up in a big, showy arch, and place his fingertips daintily on the flap handle, still keeping his arm arched up high, so he could visibly make his intentions to add flaps unmistakable to me. When I naturally ignored him, he would state, with misplaced authority, "Below 230, FLAPS ARE AVAILABLE!" Gee, thanks, Einstein. Glad to know your airspeed indicator works, too.

ShyGuy 10-24-2013 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by mephesto (Post 1507114)
i always thought guarding the flap handle and/or prompting the flying pilot "you want flaps?" ranked pretty high on the scale of toolish behavior, but i just recently flew with an fo who raised it to a whole new level.

We would be descending and slowing, and he would raise his arm up in a big, showy arch, and place his fingertips daintily on the flap handle, still keeping his arm arched up high, so he could visibly make his intentions to add flaps unmistakable to me. When i naturally ignored him, he would state, with misplaced authority, "below 230, flaps are available!" gee, thanks, einstein. Glad to know your airspeed indicator works, too.

lol!! +1

captjns 10-24-2013 01:12 PM

Sounds like the same rookie I flew with one time. I was doing paper work, as it was junior’s leg with the A/P engaged. We were cleared to climb to altitude. He eagerly pointed to the altitude select knob with his finger, and verbalized the clearance. I tapped the altitude select knob with my pen as I verbalized the clearance. After a few seconds, I enquired as to why his finger was still on the altitude select knob. His reply “You are supposed to touch the knob with your finger.”. To which I replied, “Hey Ace, just keep your finger on that knob. I’ll bet the blood is going to drain from your arm before we get our clearance to descend”.

450knotOffice 10-24-2013 06:15 PM

^^Now that's funny.

GuppyPuppy 10-25-2013 12:47 AM

Mine goes to an Eagle pilot a couple of weeks ago who, when asked by Washington center if she was sick, replied with a nasaly "Yes, I'm sick".

Obviously left her brain at home.

Maybe not such a 'tool', but certainly a dumb statement.

E

DeadHead 10-25-2013 03:25 AM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 1507208)
Sounds like the same rookie I flew with one time. I was doing paper work, as it was junior’s leg with the A/P engaged. We were cleared to climb to altitude. He eagerly pointed to the altitude select knob with his finger, and verbalized the clearance. I tapped the altitude select knob with my pen as I verbalized the clearance. After a few seconds, I enquired as to why his finger was still on the altitude select knob. His reply “You are supposed to touch the knob with your finger.”. To which I replied, “Hey Ace, just keep your finger on that knob. I’ll bet the blood is going to drain from your arm before we get our clearance to descend”.

Now when you say you "tapped the altitude select knob with your pen" what you really mean is you pointed at with your breadstick, right?

contrails 10-25-2013 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by GuppyPuppy (Post 1507435)
Mine goes to an Eagle pilot a couple of weeks ago who, when asked by Washington center if she was sick, replied with a nasaly "Yes, I'm sick".

Obviously left her brain at home.

Maybe not such a 'tool', but certainly a dumb statement.

E

No, she's also a tool by default -- for flying around the system with whatever contagious ailment plagues her. Surely it is contagious. For shame.

captjns 10-25-2013 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1507448)
Now when you say you "tapped the altitude select knob with your pen" what you really mean is you pointed at with your breadstick, right?

Busted!!!!:( At least I had my cognac in the approved cup holder.:)


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