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lolwut 07-31-2012 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by ForeverFO (Post 1237893)
FNG here. I registered mainly for this epic thread. TY all who have contributed to help properly define toolishness in today's modern aviation. And to help recognize my own toolish tendencies.

I nominate all those who fly in Merida's airspace, and either don't know or simply cannot pronounce the controlling agency's name.

Merida owns the Yucatan and the Southern Gulf of Mexico. And here's how it is pronounced.

MARE-eh-dah. It's easy. Say it with me.

It's not "Meridia". Not "Meedia". Definitely not "Meridian". MARE-eh-dah. And please don't say "Adios" to the controller. Mexicans don't say it to each other any more, if they ever did. It makes you sound like a fool. Do we say "To God" or "Go with God" to each other when we say goodbye? It's like saying "Fare thee well" or something.

I feel better now...

Whats wrong with saying "fare thee well"???? I use that every day with ATC.

80ktsClamp 07-31-2012 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by ForeverFO (Post 1237893)
FNG here. I registered mainly for this epic thread. TY all who have contributed to help properly define toolishness in today's modern aviation. And to help recognize my own toolish tendencies.

I nominate all those who fly in Merida's airspace, and either don't know or simply cannot pronounce the controlling agency's name.

Merida owns the Yucatan and the Southern Gulf of Mexico. And here's how it is pronounced.

MARE-eh-dah. It's easy. Say it with me.

It's not "Meridia". Not "Meedia". Definitely not "Meridian". MARE-eh-dah. And please don't say "Adios" to the controller. Mexicans don't say it to each other any more, if they ever did. It makes you sound like a fool. Do we say "To God" or "Go with God" to each other when we say goodbye? It's like saying "Fare thee well" or something.

I feel better now...

I'm an "hasta luego" man myself. :)


...or hasta banana.

And I appreciate the suggestion on US ATC, fare thee well and Go with God are going to get used next week.

lolwut 07-31-2012 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1237905)
I'm an "hasta luego" man myself. :)


...or hasta banana.

And I appreciate the suggestion on US ATC, fare thee well and Go with God are going to get used next week.

Sounds like you should be EWR based.

http://oi42.tinypic.com/15i9g86.jpg

RJtrashPilot 07-31-2012 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by ForeverFO (Post 1237893)
FNG here. I registered mainly for this epic thread. TY all who have contributed to help properly define toolishness in today's modern aviation. And to help recognize my own toolish tendencies.

I nominate all those who fly in Merida's airspace, and either don't know or simply cannot pronounce the controlling agency's name.

Merida owns the Yucatan and the Southern Gulf of Mexico. And here's how it is pronounced.

MARE-eh-dah. It's easy. Say it with me.

It's not "Meridia". Not "Meedia". Definitely not "Meridian". MARE-eh-dah. And please don't say "Adios" to the controller. Mexicans don't say it to each other any more, if they ever did. It makes you sound like a fool. Do we say "To God" or "Go with God" to each other when we say goodbye? It's like saying "Fare thee well" or something.

I feel better now...

Gringo pilots can't say Meridia, just like Mexican pilots can't say Jacksonville Center. It's not "Yaksonbil".

;)

ForeverFO 07-31-2012 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1237905)
And I appreciate the suggestion on US ATC, fare thee well and Go with God are going to get used next week.

I sooo dare you to. I'll be listening for it! :D

ForeverFO 07-31-2012 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by RJtrashPilot (Post 1237910)

Gringo pilots can't say Meridia, just like Mexican pilots can't say Jacksonville Center. It's not "Yaksonbil".

;)

Busted! "Meridia" is a common mispronunciation. Probably a typo, right? ;)

It's like calling Miami, "Meeamia" or something.

RJtrashPilot 07-31-2012 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by ForeverFO (Post 1237919)
Busted! "Meridia" is a common mispronunciation. Probably a typo, right? ;)

It's like calling Miami, "Meeamia" or something.

Oops.

filler filler

frmrdashtrash 07-31-2012 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by ForeverFO (Post 1237893)
FNG here. I registered mainly for this epic thread. TY all who have contributed to help properly define toolishness in today's modern aviation. And to help recognize my own toolish tendencies.

I nominate all those who fly in Merida's airspace, and either don't know or simply cannot pronounce the controlling agency's name.

Merida owns the Yucatan and the Southern Gulf of Mexico. And here's how it is pronounced.

MARE-eh-dah. It's easy. Say it with me.

It's not "Meridia". Not "Meedia". Definitely not "Meridian". MARE-eh-dah. And please don't say "Adios" to the controller. Mexicans don't say it to each other any more, if they ever did. It makes you sound like a fool. Do we say "To God" or "Go with God" to each other when we say goodbye? It's like saying "Fare thee well" or something.

I feel better now...

You think it's bad now, just wait til we start getting them back for winning the Alamo....

80ktsClamp 07-31-2012 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by ForeverFO (Post 1237919)
Busted! "Meridia" is a common mispronunciation. Probably a typo, right? ;)

It's like calling Miami, "Meeamia" or something.

You still didn't respond to his statement on the mispronunciation of US ATC center names. ;) I hear them get butchered all the time from other foreign carriers, but the level of butthurt remains low.

Fare thee well!

Timbo 07-31-2012 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by ForeverFO (Post 1237919)
Busted! "Meridia" is a common mispronunciation. Probably a typo, right? ;)

It's like calling Miami, "Meeamia" or something.

Damn, and I've been calling them Mi-Jami all these years!

And on the Adios, agree, toolish, that's why I go with;

Huevos Rancheros Muchachos, in Mexican airspace

and 'Our feet are the same' in Germany,

Sa'long in Isreal,

and Impala in Dubai...

I wonder why the all hate us?

:D

80ktsClamp 07-31-2012 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1237938)
Damn, and I've been calling them Mi-Jami all these years!

And on the Adios, agree, toolish, that's why I go with;

Huevos Rancheros Muchachos, in Mexican airspace

and 'Our feet are the same' in Germany,

Sa'long in Isreal,

and Impala in Dubai...

I wonder why the all hate us?

:D

For your hispanic flying, don't forget "grassy-ass" and "de nads!"

bcrosier 07-31-2012 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by EvilMonkey (Post 1237790)
I believe the remark about the spiky haired, iPod donning, backpack wearing pilots was a crack at RJ pilots. From a FA.

Well, but you have to admit she didn't do it behind anyone's back. which was the stated claim. Had she done so, we wouldn't be having this debate now.

EvilMonkey 07-31-2012 11:42 AM



Originally Posted by EvilMonkey (Post 1237790)
I believe the remark about the spiky haired, iPod donning, backpack wearing pilots was a crack at RJ pilots. From a FA.

Well, but you have to admit she didn't do it behind anyone's back. which was the stated claim. Had she done so, we wouldn't be having this debate now.
True...but it is an anonymous forum...

BFMthisA10 07-31-2012 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1237905)
And I appreciate the suggestion on US ATC, fare thee well and Go with God are going to get used next week.

After that warm up, might I suggest "Allahu Akbar!".
Don't be shy, give it a good shout, with feeling.

bcrosier 07-31-2012 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by BFMthisA10 (Post 1237987)
After that warm up, might I suggest "Allahu Akbar!".
Don't be shy, give it a good shout, with feeling.

Where is that "like" button? Well done old bean, well done...

RJtrashPilot 07-31-2012 01:11 PM

You might as well yell "bomb" when going through security or use code 7500. The end result will be the same.

EYBusdriver 07-31-2012 01:18 PM

Or "Salami All You Come" down here in the Middle East.

scambo1 07-31-2012 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by ForeverFO (Post 1237893)
FNG here. I registered mainly for this epic thread. TY all who have contributed to help properly define toolishness in today's modern aviation. And to help recognize my own toolish tendencies.

I nominate all those who fly in Merida's airspace, and either don't know or simply cannot pronounce the controlling agency's name.

Merida owns the Yucatan and the Southern Gulf of Mexico. And here's how it is pronounced.

MARE-eh-dah. It's easy. Say it with me.

It's not "Meridia". Not "Meedia". Definitely not "Meridian". MARE-eh-dah. And please don't say "Adios" to the controller. Mexicans don't say it to each other any more, if they ever did. It makes you sound like a fool. Do we say "To God" or "Go with God" to each other when we say goodbye? It's like saying "Fare thee well" or something.

I feel better now...

Estas hablando como una bolsa de herramientas.

Muchas gracias por su experto lexicon en la lingua de la Yucatan.

A-Dios herramienta

buzzpat 07-31-2012 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1237905)
I'm an "hasta luego" man myself. :)


...or hasta banana.

And I appreciate the suggestion on US ATC, fare thee well and Go with God are going to get used next week.

I swear Im going to use those tonight. I need some new material.

Besides, can't be any worse than FedEx guys constantly calling ops on guard.

buzzpat 07-31-2012 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by EYBusdriver (Post 1238011)
Or "Salami All You Come" down here in the Middle East.

I've tried that flying over Cairo....doesn't work very well.:eek:

IA1125 07-31-2012 05:04 PM

I was whining to a Mexican Flight Instructor at Cuernavaca, Mexico (CVJ) about the intersection and nav aid names around Mexico City and he said, "Sh*t man, all those names are Indian names, we can't even say them."

I always like the clearance that included a 350nm leg on a NDB bearing.

We had a car and a driver for transportation around the city and to and from the airport. On the way to the airport, we passed a pilot with one or two stripes walking to the airport. I asked, "I wonder what kind of a pilot he is?" The driver didn't miss a beat and said, "A poor one."

I was a tool for not picking him up, wish I had that to do over.

capncrunch 07-31-2012 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by EYBusdriver (Post 1238011)
Or "Salami All You Come" down here in the Middle East.

Or "I assimilate Em".

IA1125 07-31-2012 06:08 PM

Two things:

APA put out years ago, "Junior Manning is a pilot IQ test."

and

After 30 years, I don't need an ignore button to ignore a FA. I fly with mostly the same group, so there are FA's I respect, listen to, take advice from on occasion and FA's that walk onto my aircraft that I don't hear a word they say.

Now that may be bad in an emergency, but, in my experience, those FA's I push the mental "ignore" button on, usually create emergencies.

Coming into DEN, early, we were, of course, advised we would have to wait 30 minutes for a gate. Below sterile, the "B" FA calls and says, "We have a woman vomiting blood." I call Company and viola, we have a gate.

In the "good old days" you could listen to the conversation between FA's. The "A" called the "B" and asked what was up? The "B" said a woman is vomiting blood. The "A" FA asked, "Is that the one that drank so much red wine?"

I kept that conversation to myself and we got in 30 early - with a gate. The "B" went on my "ignore" list.

Justdoinmyjob 08-01-2012 06:15 AM

In the good old days? We still can listen in to the cabin interphone. Most don't though, what with mostly inane droning.

FrankCobretti 08-01-2012 02:11 PM

I'm surprised by all this animosity directed toward FAs. Pretty much everyone I fly with is professional and nice.

flyandive 08-01-2012 08:50 PM


I'm surprised by all this animosity directed toward FAs. Pretty much everyone I fly with is professional and nice.
I wouldn't necessarily call it animosity. The majority of the FAs I fly with are great and very professional. Sadly there are enough crazies out there (and I mean CRAZY) that it can be very difficult to trust an FA you have not gotten to know yet. Until I started flying for the airlines I never understood how much a great flight attendant can make a HUGE difference in how a trip goes. Those are the ones I remember! A great flight attendant solves problems, a poor one creates them. Again the majority of flight attendants I fly with are quite good.

As I know there are a few flight attendants on this board, I say welcome! The fact that you are here shows a desire to be more involved, and maybe a little boredom! The best advice I can give (other than don't answer the phone;-) is no matter what, KEEP CALM!!! If you get angry so will the passengers, if you panic, so will the passengers.

DENpilot 08-01-2012 10:30 PM

I award tool of the day to United landing on 22R today in ORD. We were awaiting takeoff on 14L when the controller was having trouble reaching another aircraft. The controller was being stepped on. On about the 4th attempt, contact was made and the controller was not impatient or upset and life went on.

Except for DB United 'I'm perfect and never miss a radio call', having NOTHING to do with what was going on. He says, "You called that guy like 5 times."

Controller, "Say again?"
United, "Yeah you called that guy 5 times before he acknowledged."
Controller, "No, it's really no big deal."
United, "Yeah, but 5 times?"
Controller, "Was there somebody else trying to call that I missed?" (Controller now blowing United off...)
United (oblivious to the fact that the controller is ignoring him...) "No, it wasn't someone else. I was just saying that you called that guy... disregard."

ysslah 08-01-2012 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by RJtrashPilot (Post 1237910)
Gringo pilots can't say Meridia, just like Mexican pilots can't say Jacksonville Center. It's not "Yaksonbil".

;)

Thank you sir, for making my 4:25 van ride enjoyable.

HSLD 08-02-2012 12:41 AM


Originally Posted by FrankCobretti (Post 1238639)
I'm surprised by all this animosity directed toward FAs. Pretty much everyone I fly with is professional and nice.


No kidding, I'm flying with original Pan Am stews who are the epitome of professional, competent, and funny. They'll be the first to tell you that their bra size is 38 Long and could give a crap about it. It's an absolute pleasure to fly with these women, they are no kidding aviation legends! It makes me sad to think that there's only a year or two left with them before they retire.

LNL76 08-02-2012 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by FrankCobretti (Post 1238639)
I'm surprised by all this animosity directed toward FAs. Pretty much everyone I fly with is professional and nice.



Originally Posted by flyandive (Post 1238838)
I wouldn't necessarily call it animosity. The majority of the FAs I fly with are great and very professional. Sadly there are enough crazies out there (and I mean CRAZY) that it can be very difficult to trust an FA you have not gotten to know yet. Until I started flying for the airlines I never understood how much a great flight attendant can make a HUGE difference in how a trip goes. Those are the ones I remember! A great flight attendant solves problems, a poor one creates them. Again the majority of flight attendants I fly with are quite good.


As I know there are a few flight attendants on this board, I say welcome! The fact that you are here shows a desire to be more involved, and maybe a little boredom! The best advice I can give (other than don't answer the phone;-) is no matter what, KEEP CALM!!! If you get angry so will the passengers, if you panic, so will the passengers.


Originally Posted by HSLD (Post 1238862)
No kidding, I'm flying with original Pan Am stews who are the epitome of professional, competent, and funny. They'll be the first to tell you that their bra size is 38 Long and could give a crap about it. It's an absolute pleasure to fly with these women, they are no kidding aviation legends! It makes me sad to think that there's only a year or two left with them before they retire.

Thanks, gentlemen! FWIW, we enjoy flying with true professionals like you more than you'll ever know. ;)

(100% truth about a great crew making for a fun AND smooth trip.)

forgot to bid 08-02-2012 11:45 AM

DCA Ground: ****, follow the E-170 holding short of 1-5.

Pi$$y **** Pilot: Follow what? A E-170, I don't know what that is, I've never flown one. So what do you want me to follow? An airplane holding short of 1-5? Which airplane holding short of 1-5?

DCA Ground: The E-170 holding short of 1-5. The one with the blue top.

**** Pilot: Okay, so you want me to follow the airplane with the blue top.

I've never flown a E-170 either, I know what it is. Just like I know what a 747 is, even though I don't have a type in one.

?

*** = major carrier.

8hourrule 08-02-2012 12:47 PM

Tool of the day
 
Delta pilot that just gave me the business like a passenger would about our APU craping the bed on us. Even offered advice on how we could have better handled the situation. We did everything we could to keep it cool. Thrust up on both engines until we cooked the brakes then shut one down and keep the other one pushed way up. These are things that happen tool!!!

BlueMoon 08-02-2012 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1239122)
DCA Ground: ****, follow the E-170 holding short of 1-5.

Pi$$y **** Pilot: Follow what? A E-170, I don't know what that is, I've never flown one. So what do you want me to follow? An airplane holding short of 1-5? Which airplane holding short of 1-5?

DCA Ground: The E-170 holding short of 1-5. The one with the blue top.

**** Pilot: Okay, so you want me to follow the airplane with the blue top.

I've never flown a E-170 either, I know what it is. Just like I know what a 747 is, even though I don't have a type in one.

?

*** = major carrier.

Have heard that at a few major airports recently...

I mean is it really that tough? There are only a handful of different aircraft types flying in the US, and we all see them constantly.

To the Pilots who do this:
We get it, you want to be a dick, congrats you succeeded. We all think you are one.

LateralFlyer 08-02-2012 02:11 PM

A few years ago we had a mechanical issue at an outstation. A commuting 777 Captain for our mainline counterpart came storming down the aisle, demanding to know what the mx issue was. He even proceeded to interject his opinion that the write-up was trivial and we shouldn't be taking a delay. Fortunately, I was flying with a 20+ year guy who had no problem putting him in his place. Before tactfully telling him to sit down, he asked the commuter how he would react if one of us butted into his cockpit and started questioning his decisions.

toomanyrjs 08-02-2012 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by LateralFlyer (Post 1239188)
A few years ago we had a mechanical issue at an outstation. A commuting 777 Captain for our mainline counterpart came storming down the aisle, demanding to know what the mx issue was. He even proceeded to interject his opinion that the write-up was trivial and we shouldn't be taking a delay. Fortunately, I was flying with a 20+ year guy who had no problem putting him in his place. Before tactfully telling him to sit down, he asked the commuter how he would react if one of us butted into his cockpit and started questioning his decisions.

I would personally value the opinion of the 777 captain over the opinion of some regional lifer.

Slats 08-02-2012 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by toomanyrjs (Post 1239230)
I would personally value the opinion of the 777 captain over the opinion of some regional lifer.

Why? Because he flies a bigger airplane? Maybe the regional guy was an EX fighter pilot who started at a regional after serving 20+ yrs and decided QOL was better to stay at his regional then sit reserve for years on end.... Bottoms line, when you're hitching a ride the only words out of your mouth should be "may I" and "Thank you" unless prompted for more by the crew.

jdt30 08-02-2012 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by Slats (Post 1239241)
Why? Because he flies a bigger airplane? Maybe the regional guy was an EX fighter pilot who started at a regional after serving 20+ yrs and decided QOL was better to stay at his regional then sit reserve for years on end.... Bottoms line, when you're hitching a ride the only words out of your mouth should be "may I" and "Thank you" unless prompted for more by the crew.

Or "watch out for that mountain."

LateralFlyer 08-02-2012 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by toomanyrjs (Post 1239230)
I would personally value the opinion of the 777 captain over the opinion of some regional lifer.

:rolleyes:Let me guess. You commute out of LIT...

Mephesto 08-02-2012 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1239122)
DCA Ground: ****, follow the E-170 holding short of 1-5.

Pi$$y **** Pilot: Follow what? A E-170, I don't know what that is, I've never flown one. So what do you want me to follow? An airplane holding short of 1-5? Which airplane holding short of 1-5?

DCA ground: "Roger that, hold your position." (begins moving all other traffic on frequency).....

etflies 08-02-2012 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by toomanyrjs (Post 1239230)
I would personally value the opinion of the 777 captain over the opinion of some regional lifer.

Yeah, go with the word of a guy who in all likelihood, if he/she is a 777 CA doesn't hold a type on the airplane, know the operation, manuals or full story. Good call.


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