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Not much volatility on this so the thread is safe for now !

mike734

If he was defending himself then he was justified. We will never know how the fight started. In any case, It is better to let a guilty man go free than to lock up an innocent man.

DeadHead

My only gripe with that mike is that he continued to pursue TM after the police dispatcher had advised him to wait for the police and not continue to pursue him.

I'm not looking at this from a racial standpoint because I don't really care why GZ initially pursued TM.

So the scenario was a strange man following a young boy in his car. Said strange man gets out of his vehicle, with a handgun, approaches the young boy and attempts to detain and/or apprehend him. How was TM not to know that GZ was a deranged individual with malice intent?

I can definitely see both sides to this. GZ may have very well been killed, and to that the self-defense card plays valid. That being said it was still his actions that caused this situation to aggressively escalate into a physical altercation ending in TM's death.

There were so many other outcomes that could of come from this situation had GZ acted differently. So with that being said I would think manslaughter charges would have applied at the very least. Murder 1 is kind of a stretch because I have no doubt that GZ didn't intend to kill TM.

jungle

Just wondering where your account of the events came from, court records, police investigation or pulled at random out of an orifice.

DeadHead

NBC, CBS, FOX, NYT, Wall Street Journal, Bloomberg.....
Basically mainstream media.

Obviously you have a differing opinion, so may I ask you where you get your facts from and what you base your opinion on.
Or we can just sling insults at one another?

jungle

So you based your account on the MSM and not the findings of the court or the police investigation. My opinion matters not nor does yours, but it is important to note the court and police account of those events does not match yours. No further questions.

JamesNoBrakes

Well, the police investigation is what ended him up with the charge, so I'd say that's at least somewhat valid...

jungle

No, they found no wrongdoing to charge him with, the charges stemmed from another source. The police had elected, along with the local DA not to charge him with any crime.

DeadHead

Jungle, I'm just curious where you get your information from.

I ask because I usually try to get mine from multiple news outlets and really only pay attention to reoccurring facts. I'm fully well aware of media bias and realize how often they "get it wrong", but even with the two pieces of salt I take reports with there is still some semblance of actual information.

JamesNoBrakes

How does that happen? Do the police not report their findings to the DA, who makes the decision?