Good use for a Water Bomber
08-09-2013, 03:03 PM
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Good use for a Water Bomber
Putting a Semi Tractor Trailer fire out with a Water Bomber on video.
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08-11-2013, 11:11 PM
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It's not there to put out the fire. It's class A foam in the tanker; the drop is to protect the exposures and prevent the fire from spreading. Putting class A foam and water on a petrochemical fire can cause an explosion. That drop was simply to contain the fire to keep it from becoming worse outside the vehicle incident.
08-20-2013, 12:18 AM
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Aerial firefighting.
There are very few heavy tanker positions available, and very few heavy tankers left. Your best bet at an entry position would be to seek out an Air Attack job in a Commander, either with Spur Aviation (Twin Falls, ID) or Ponderosa Aviation (Safford, AZ) to get your foot wet in fire aviation.
The largest number of air tankers presently are single engine air tankers, almost all Air Tractor AT-802A's. For those, you'll usually need to already have solid 802 experience, ample conventional gear (tailwheel) experience, and mountain experience. Not a lot of positions come open each year, but a few do. Western Pilot Service, Queen Bee, Evergreen, Henry's, New Frontier and a few other operators have exclusive use and call-when-needed contracts.
Neptune flies P2V's and the BAE-146. Tanker 10 flies the DC-10. Minden flies the P2, and shortly, the BAE 146. Coulson is just getting their C-130 online. Aeroflite operates CL-215's.
There are more heavy tankers in Canada. Good luck getting across the border and getting work in one, though.
There are very few heavy tanker positions available, and very few heavy tankers left. Your best bet at an entry position would be to seek out an Air Attack job in a Commander, either with Spur Aviation (Twin Falls, ID) or Ponderosa Aviation (Safford, AZ) to get your foot wet in fire aviation.
The largest number of air tankers presently are single engine air tankers, almost all Air Tractor AT-802A's. For those, you'll usually need to already have solid 802 experience, ample conventional gear (tailwheel) experience, and mountain experience. Not a lot of positions come open each year, but a few do. Western Pilot Service, Queen Bee, Evergreen, Henry's, New Frontier and a few other operators have exclusive use and call-when-needed contracts.
Neptune flies P2V's and the BAE-146. Tanker 10 flies the DC-10. Minden flies the P2, and shortly, the BAE 146. Coulson is just getting their C-130 online. Aeroflite operates CL-215's.
There are more heavy tankers in Canada. Good luck getting across the border and getting work in one, though.
08-20-2013, 05:50 AM
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John,
There was a very recent wildfire (Rockport 5 fire) close to where I live. Among the aircraft involved was one of the DC-10's. I was curious as to what that costs, Googled it, and saw in one story it is $60,000 per day (with a five day minimum) and $12,000 per hour. (Here's a link to the story. There are some excellent photos:
Rockport 5 Fire burns nearly 2,000 acres, 90 percent contained | FOX13Now.com
On the one hand it struck me as totally ridiculous, but on the other hand if it directly saves a couple of multi-million dollar homes worth it.
I did some more Internet searching and came upon this story:
Neptune passed over for $158M firefighting contract
After looking at the related documents it struck me that Neptune was not competitive in their bid, and were b*tching because they didn't win anyway...
Could you explain more about aerial firefighting and how these contracts work?
There was a very recent wildfire (Rockport 5 fire) close to where I live. Among the aircraft involved was one of the DC-10's. I was curious as to what that costs, Googled it, and saw in one story it is $60,000 per day (with a five day minimum) and $12,000 per hour. (Here's a link to the story. There are some excellent photos:
Rockport 5 Fire burns nearly 2,000 acres, 90 percent contained | FOX13Now.com
On the one hand it struck me as totally ridiculous, but on the other hand if it directly saves a couple of multi-million dollar homes worth it.
I did some more Internet searching and came upon this story:
Neptune passed over for $158M firefighting contract
After looking at the related documents it struck me that Neptune was not competitive in their bid, and were b*tching because they didn't win anyway...
Could you explain more about aerial firefighting and how these contracts work?
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