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Sir James 12-08-2006 09:25 PM

Pilot divorce horror stories
 
In my domicile a lot of pilots have been divorcing as of late. I talk to my friends at other airlines and they've noticed the same.

The most remarkable story was that of the wife who barricaded herself in a room, put a cord around her neck and choked herself, and called 911 claiming spousal battery. The poor pilot was arrested.

What stories have you heard that top that? This could prove to be a quite educational thread

Skygirl 12-09-2006 12:00 AM


Originally Posted by Sir James (Post 90075)
In my domicile a lot of pilots have been divorcing as of late. I talk to my friends at other airlines and they've noticed the same.

The most remarkable story was that of the wife who barricaded herself in a room, put a cord around her neck and choked herself, and called 911 claiming spousal battery. The poor pilot was arrested.

What stories have you heard that top that? This could prove to be a quite educational thread

That's unfortunate Sir James.

Fortunately my life hasn't come close to that sort of drama. Marriage is not on my agenda, so I can breathe easier.

I can't speak for the personal judgments and choices of spouses that one makes...time for some shut eye...see ya

ShadowFlight 12-09-2006 05:25 AM

That particular story sounds like there were other issues involved. I'm not a expert on marriage or even women. I have plenty of my own horror stories and bad judgement calls. :eek: :D

Anyway, it appears a fair number of people jump into marriage too soon before really getting to know the other person. I read somewhere it's called marriage at the "plateau" of a dating relationship.

Undoubtedly, the airline pilot lifestyle is rough on marriages/relationships. From my male perspective, women (for the most part) want stability and structure with low risk which is diametrically opposite from the pilot lifestyle, at least in today's economy. If the married couple have kids, that adds more stress into the situation. Some women just cannot deal with being a single parent when the dad is gone on a trip. Some can.

It's sad and unfortunate people go through divorces - the emotional upheaval takes a toll on all involved. The repercussions on the kids, if any, can be lifelong.

As for me, I'm going to use a rather shrewd and sage piece of advice I heard from an older guy. Don't marry a woman who takes medication to be "happy". ;)

learav8r 12-09-2006 05:53 AM

remember that marriage is the leading cause of all divorces.....

Was That For Us? 12-09-2006 07:15 AM

www.nomarriage.com was posted on another thread. It is the total truth! I too have seen most marriages in my family and among friends disintegrate.

The life long, happy marriage is for about 5% of the couples. The rest are either unhappy, in denial, or divorced.

SkyHigh 12-09-2006 07:48 AM

Marrage
 

Originally Posted by Was That For Us? (Post 90131)
www.nomarriage.com was posted on another thread. It is the total truth! I too have seen most marriages in my family and among friends disintegrate.

The life long, happy marriage is for about 5% of the couples. The rest are either unhappy, in denial, or divorced.

You are right! One half of all marriages end in divorce and the rest end in death! Why try? Lets all become lonely single people, no kids, only a nice cold soaked jet who will love us until we are 60.

SkyHigh

wild4theuniform 12-09-2006 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by Was That For Us? (Post 90131)
www.nomarriage.com was posted on another thread. It is the total truth! I too have seen most marriages in my family and among friends disintegrate.

The life long, happy marriage is for about 5% of the couples. The rest are either unhappy, in denial, or divorced.

Can you spell M-I-S-O-G-Y-N-I-S-T? Jeez, guys, you DON'T really believe ALL that crap on that garbage website, do you? If you do, I feel very sorry for you and the sorry women who get involved with you. Grow UP!! :mad: :( :confused:

Skygirl 12-09-2006 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by SkyHigh (Post 90139)
You are right! One half of all marriages end in divorce and the rest end in death! Why try? Lets all become lonely single people, no kids, only a nice cold soaked jet who will love us until we are 60.

SkyHigh


Now Skyhigh, there you go with your negativity again. Being single does NOT mean that you are lonely! There is nothing more lonely than being in a bad marriage! I am enjoying being single again! I can surround myself with friends or family, do what I want when I want, hop on a plane and take off anytime I want. That's not to say that I won't marry again someday. I might further on down the road. Never say never, but it's not a goal of mine.

wild4theuniform 12-09-2006 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by Skygirl (Post 90143)
Now Skyhigh, there you go with your negativity again. Being single does NOT mean that you are lonely! There is nothing more lonely than being in a bad marriage! I am enjoying being single again! I can surround myself with friends or family, do what I want when I want, hop on a plane and take off anytime I want. That's not to say that I won't marry again someday. I might further on down the road. Never say never, but it's not a goal of mine.

Amen, sister!! I couldn't have said it any better. Different strokes, I suppose....

LAfrequentflyer 12-09-2006 08:08 AM

Now that I'm married (to the right person...) I find my life is more complete...I don't miss a thing about being single...


-LAFF

SkyHigh 12-09-2006 08:13 AM

Statistically
 

Originally Posted by Skygirl (Post 90143)
Now Skyhigh, there you go with your negativity again. Being single does NOT mean that you are lonely! There is nothing more lonely than being in a bad marriage! I am enjoying being single again! I can surround myself with friends or family, do what I want when I want, hop on a plane and take off anytime I want. That's not to say that I won't marry again someday. I might further on down the road. Never say never, but it's not a goal of mine.

Statistically the happiest people are divorced or widowed women over 50. I have nothing against being single. I had some wonderful years as a single person however I do feel that it is important to give it a strong effort as a younger person since one of our higher and most satisfying purposes in life is to reproduce.


SkyHigh

Skygirl 12-09-2006 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by wild4theuniform (Post 90141)
Can you spell M-I-S-O-G-Y-N-I-S-T? Jeez, guys, you DON'T really believe ALL that crap on that garbage website, do you? If you do, I feel very sorry for you and the sorry women who get involved with you. Grow UP!! :mad: :( : emoticon delete to make room for mine

Wild, there are some guys out there with arrested development issues. They're incapable of having any sort of meaningful, beautiful relationship. They're the kind that have to go to Asia and hire wh0res or buy what they think will be a subservient Asian wife, only to find that when he gets her back to the US, she merely used his money and him to get into the US and bring her family over. Happens all the time, and quite frankly I think it's hysterical to watch it happen to guys like that. I know one guy who has always been a total idiot, like the guys who frequent that website. He dumped his wife, went over to Thailand and found himself what he thought was a sweet young thing. After he got her US citizenship, moved her family over and put her through college, she CLEANED him out, and I mean CLEANED him out. He deserved all of it. Karmic payback sure can be a *****! :D

Skygirl 12-09-2006 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by SkyHigh (Post 90149)
Statistically the happiest people are divorced or widowed women over 50. I have nothing against being single. I had some wonderful years as a single person however I do feel that it is important to give it a strong effort as a younger person since one of our higher and most satisfying purposes in life is to reproduce.


SkyHigh

Well I'm 46, not quite 50 yet, but I'm happy. I've already reproduced and raised my sons and now it's time for me! I adore men, but don't need one in order to feel complete. Skyhigh, you can either choose to be happy or not. ;) :p

wild4theuniform 12-09-2006 08:23 AM

:D

Originally Posted by Skygirl (Post 90150)
Wild, there are some guys out there with arrested development issues. They're incapable of having any sort of meaningful, beautiful relationship. They're the kind that have to go to Asia and hire wh0res or buy what they think will be a subservient Asian wife, only to find that when he gets her back to the US, she merely used his money and him to get into the US and bring her family over. Happens all the time, and quite frankly I think it's hysterical to watch it happen to guys like that. I know one guy who has always been a total idiot, like the guys who frequent that website. He dumped his wife, went over to Thailand and found himself what he thought was a sweet young thing. After he got her US citizenship, moved her family over and put her through college, she CLEANED him out, and I mean CLEANED him out. He deserved all of it. Karmic payback sure can be a *****! :D


Ya know, Sky, I think if this is how some guys TRULY feel, they should consider "switching teams." Funny how the guys who bash women are the ones who are the biggest wh*re-masters around. I guess they just have to keep proving to themselves how "heterosexual" they are!! What clowns! Sorry to you "normal" guys out there, but some of your brothers need to get a grip on reality and stop acting like hormonal teenagers. Geez, I have a 15 year old son who is more mature than some of you "men."... :rolleyes:

Ninety Two, Set 12-09-2006 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by Skygirl (Post 90150)
Wild, there are some guys out there with arrested development issues. They're incapable of having any sort of meaningful, beautiful relationship. They're the kind that have to go to Asia and hire wh0res or buy what they think will be a subservient Asian wife, only to find that when he gets her back to the US, she merely used his money and him to get into the US and bring her family over. Happens all the time, and quite frankly I think it's hysterical to watch it happen to guys like that. I know one guy who has always been a total idiot, like the guys who frequent that website. He dumped his wife, went over to Thailand and found himself what he thought was a sweet young thing. After he got her US citizenship, moved her family over and put her through college, she CLEANED him out, and I mean CLEANED him out. He deserved all of it. Karmic payback sure can be a *****! :D

Guys that marry women are about as dumb as the women that marry them in return. Dumb plus dumb equals divorce and disappointment.

Marriage really benefits nobody except for children.

Tech Maven 12-09-2006 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by SkyHigh (Post 90149)
Statistically the happiest people are divorced or widowed women over 50.

that's interesting... as i have noticed the opposite; that they're very bitter.

btwissel 12-09-2006 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by SkyHigh (Post 90149)
Statistically the happiest people are divorced or widowed women over 50.

of course they are. by that point, the husband's life insurance is worth more than he is. add in his Soc Sec she gets to collect, and life's pretty nice... :D

favila008 12-09-2006 09:41 AM

In my opinion I feel that the act of marrying someone is something that we must give serious thought to. I someday hope to marry, but not anytime soon. The fact is that marriage is not meant to be a form of producing children, or anything related to children. Marriage is not a way to have a constant amount of secure safe sex. Marriage is the process of unifying our selves with someone, and wanting to live with them, because we love them, and we want to be with them for the rest of our life. Now, wanting to be with them and loving them is not enough to make a marriage succeed. For it to succeed there has to be mutual respect, and a fifty fifty collaboration on everything you do. There is no reason why a woman should cook everyday of the week, many men often think that having a spouse is a way to secure and facilitate their life, which is sad, because the love wears out, and women begin to get tired of serving the “man”. (This could be applied backwards, with the man serving the woman).

The fact is that in the past women were supposed to stick to their husbands, regardless if they were moronic d*cks. Who only cared about themselves. Luckily now days, women are able to care for themselves, and we as a society accept that. Which gives women more leverage to leave men, and thus why we see more divorces.

I have personally seen some marriages in which women have to stick to men, who yell at them because they (woman) can’t support themselves, or because of the children, the reality is that everyone should be happy in life, and sometimes marriage proves impossible.

Another reality is that many, many people including woman don’t have the personality required for a good marriage. I have seen my fare share of demanding, and bossy girls, who would never make it in a marriage, unless they changed their ways. One also has to be careful because most people tend not to be themselves while you date, and once you get married to them you start seeing who they truly are. Too Late. Thus why you want to get to know the other person really well, and if possible live with them before marriage. I personally don’t see marriage as a great deal, because if you were meant to be with someone, all you have to do is prove it to your partner and yourself.

It is obviously more complicated than this, what’s good is that I’m young and have an idea of what I want in marriage, (not that I want it anytime soon, part of having a good marriage is going and having fun by yourself for a long long time.) I also wont get married to the first girl I see, because I don’t want to make my life a living hell. If I do see the right girl then I’ll marry her, if I don’t then I’ll stay single, there is no shame in being single. It is better than being miserable.

Just my two Lincolns.

wild4theuniform 12-09-2006 09:53 AM

The fact is that in the past women were supposed to stick to their husbands, regardless if they were moronic d*cks. Who only cared about themselves. Luckily now days, women are able to care for themselves, and we as a society accept that. Which gives women more leverage to leave men, and thus why we see more divorces.

Thus why you want to get to know the other person really well, and if possible live with them before marriage.

there is no shame in being single. It is better than being miserable.

:cool:
Very wise observations! However, don't assume living together is all it's cracked up to be. I know of several friends who did this, and STILL ended up divorced. What is it about that little ring of gold that changes things? Hmmm....

ShadowFlight 12-09-2006 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by SkyHigh (Post 90149)
...since one of our higher and most satisfying purposes in life is to reproduce.

Maybe for you that is life's purpose. But for others, it's not. We humans have many different higher purposes in life. Some have kids, others make society better, or any number of reasons.

I wouldn't advocate someone to have kids if they're not best suited for them. That doesn't do the kids any justice. Nor would I advocate that we should have only one higher purpose in life. That's a little narrow-minded to other purposes that may exist.

Different strokes for different folks.

Pilotpip 12-09-2006 10:44 AM

I moved to a rural town and it never ceases to amaze me how young everybody getting married out here is. You graduate highschool, get married within a year and start dropping out kids. One of my sister's friends is seriously contemplating turning down a full-ride scholarship because her boyfriend doesn't want her to go. Oddly enough, spousal abuse is very high out here too...

Skygirl 12-09-2006 12:23 PM

Favila, it sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders and will make a great husband some day. But you're right, don't be in a rush to marry. It's too messy and complicated to get un-married if it doesn't work out.

SkyHigh 12-09-2006 12:32 PM

Whatever
 

Originally Posted by ShadowFlight (Post 90181)
Maybe for you that is life's purpose. But for others, it's not. We humans have many different higher purposes in life. Some have kids, others make society better, or any number of reasons.

I wouldn't advocate someone to have kids if they're not best suited for them. That doesn't do the kids any justice. Nor would I advocate that we should have only one higher purpose in life. That's a little narrow-minded to other purposes that may exist.

Different strokes for different folks.

I had a similar disposition when I was younger.

SkyHigh

SkyHigh 12-09-2006 12:34 PM

Choose Happiness
 

Originally Posted by Skygirl (Post 90151)
Well I'm 46, not quite 50 yet, but I'm happy. I've already reproduced and raised my sons and now it's time for me! I adore men, but don't need one in order to feel complete. Skyhigh, you can either choose to be happy or not. ;) :p

Thanks, I am vary happy. It is a major drive for my efforts on this forum. My aim is to help others to avoid making poor major life choices based upon false information and assumptions.

SkyHigh

ShadowFlight 12-09-2006 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by SkyHigh (Post 90217)
I had a similar disposition when I was younger.

SkyHigh

I'm probably in the same age bracket as you. Maybe older.

:eek:

jungle 12-10-2006 05:23 AM

I don't visit Casinos, but if I did I don't think I would shove 50-65% of everything I owned across the table on a bet with a 50% chance of losing.

If you have a good relationship don't complicate things with marriage unless you want children or feel you must observe some requirement of religion. If either party feels that the promise of another is not trustworthy, a paper contract will not make it so.

Marriage can be great or a living hell. Find someone who is mature and compatible and spend a great deal of time with them before making what should be a lifelong choice. With the right person you will both be rewarded for your efforts, with the wrong choice the pain can be extensive.

HotMamaPilot 12-13-2006 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by Skygirl (Post 90143)
Now Skyhigh, there you go with your negativity again. Being single does NOT mean that you are lonely! There is nothing more lonely than being in a bad marriage! I am enjoying being single again! I can surround myself with friends or family, do what I want when I want, hop on a plane and take off anytime I want. That's not to say that I won't marry again someday. I might further on down the road. Never say never, but it's not a goal of mine.

Everybody gets lonely; it's natural. Being single is fun, but it gets old. I bet in a year or two you'll be hitched again.

HotMamaPilot 12-13-2006 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by Ninety Two, Set (Post 90153)
Guys that marry women are about as dumb as the women that marry them in return. Dumb plus dumb equals divorce and disappointment.

Marriage really benefits nobody except for children
.

well put. I'm not entirely convinced that men and women CAN live together happily. Two ENTIRELY differnet animals. The wiring is opposite in many ways.

learav8r 12-13-2006 09:01 AM

Try this book....
 
If you are on the fence on marriage make sure you read "The Predatory Female" written by the REV Lawrence Shannon.


Available from Amazon.com.
Best $8.95 you will ever spend:)

Skygirl 12-13-2006 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot (Post 91587)
Everybody gets lonely; it's natural. Being single is fun, but it gets old. I bet in a year or two you'll be hitched again.

I bet you I won't! :)

wild4theuniform 12-13-2006 12:31 PM

Lonely
 
[QUOTE=Skygirl;91701]I bet you I won't! /QUOTE]

There are many different ways to "cure" loneliness!!!!" ;) :p :D

wild4theuniform 12-13-2006 12:35 PM

[QUOTE=learav8r;91698]If you are on the fence on marriage make sure you read "The Predatory Female" written by the REV Lawrence Shannon.


Available from Amazon.com.
Best $8.95 you will ever spend/QUOTE]

Gee, another book bashing females. How original! Better off spending the $8.95 "wisely" than wasting it taking a girl to McDonald's for a gourmet dinner! Do you guys realize what you sound like?? Geez.....:confused: :rolleyes: :eek:

WatchThis! 12-13-2006 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by wild4theuniform (Post 91768)
Gee, another book bashing females. How original! Better off spending the $8.95 "wisely" than wasting it taking a girl to McDonald's for a gourmet dinner! Do you guys realize what you sound like?? Geez.....:confused: :rolleyes: :eek:

Geez is right! You nag more than my Ex.

wild4theuniform 12-13-2006 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by WatchThis! (Post 91771)
Geez is right! You nag more than my Ex.

Clever retort.....:p

jungle 12-13-2006 02:37 PM

Wild4, I don't think these guys are "bashing females", what they are bashing is the traditional contract of marriage and it's resultant legal and property entanglements. I see this coming from a lot of women too, or more precisely-the independent and smart women who have managed to become a success and don't really want to play hostess to someone in exchange for some small favor they can obtain most anywhere.
I think things work best for both parties if they are balanced in terms of intelligence, experience, culture and of course money. Having half of the relationship highly dependent on the other person for anything is not a formula for happiness.

wild4theuniform 12-13-2006 04:56 PM

finally
 

Originally Posted by jungle (Post 91800)
Wild4, I don't think these guys are "bashing females", what they are bashing is the traditional contract of marriage and it's resultant legal and property entanglements. I see this coming from a lot of women too, or more precisely-the independent and smart women who have managed to become a success and don't really want to play hostess to someone in exchange for some small favor they can obtain most anywhere.
I think things work best for both parties if they are balanced in terms of intelligence, experience, culture and of course money. Having half of the relationship highly dependent on the other person for anything is not a formula for happiness.

FINALLY -- an intelligent post! I knew someone had it in them...LOL.. Seriously, thanks, Jungle for your enlightening post. I'm glad you explained what the book is about and I happen to agree 100%. You sound like a man who's got his act together. Unfortunately, there are so few of us adults who do these days. :D ;)

Skygirl 12-13-2006 05:42 PM

[QUOTE=wild4theuniform;91768]

Originally Posted by learav8r (Post 91698)
If you are on the fence on marriage make sure you read "The Predatory Female" written by the REV Lawrence Shannon.


Available from Amazon.com.
Best $8.95 you will ever spend/QUOTE]

Gee, another book bashing females. How original! Better off spending the $8.95 "wisely" than wasting it taking a girl to McDonald's for a gourmet dinner! Do you guys realize what you sound like?? Geez.....:confused: :rolleyes: :eek:


My problem with books like "The Predatory Female" and the "no Marriage" website is that they're ignorant in lumping all of us females together - like we're all desperate to prey on a man. That would be like saying that ALL men want a stupid, brainless trophy wife to spend the rest of his empty life with. It's ridiculous and a waste of time to refute generalizations like that, because quite frankly, I wouldn't waste my precious time on a man who truly believed those things. I would rather waste my precious limited spare time on a man intelligent enough to respect me and "my" life. Respect is where it's at, and neither of those forums suggest any sort of consideration of mutual respect.

jungle 12-13-2006 06:17 PM

Hot and stupid gets boring long before smart and sassy. Men respect independence and intelligence. We have all been there and done that, but in the end we all want someone who can stand alone on their own merits.

wild4theuniform 12-13-2006 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by jungle (Post 91872)
Hot and stupid gets boring long before smart and sassy. Men respect independence and intelligence. We have all been there and done that, but in the end we all want someone who can stand alone on their own merits.

If you aren't married now, I predict you will make some lucky woman VERY happy someday! :) ;)

jungle 12-13-2006 06:28 PM

Never married and don't need to be, but I have had several long term relationships that lasted much longer than most of my friends marriages and I'm still on a friendly basis with all of them.
It's not about winning, it's about caring and helping. I don't need much but it won't work without reliable, stable attention to what is going on between you and the person you care about.


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