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Timbo 06-14-2014 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by ClutchCargo (Post 1664318)
Reminds me of April 1975.

Yeahbut...

if Viet Nam had oil, instead of hookers, we'd probably still be in there, "fighting for their Freedom"! :D

I think her name was Lei Mei.

And no, it wasn't free! :eek:

GogglesPisano 06-14-2014 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1664222)
I think that's the question bothering many folks right now.

To turn our backs now completely invalidates the sacrifice paid by so much of our blood and treasure..

Economists call this, "sunk cost." Most people call it throwing good money after bad. We should have stayed out of it when we had the chance. We definitely shouldn't go back in, because we were once there.

Timbo 06-15-2014 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 1664525)
Economists call this, "sunk cost." Most people call it throwing good money after bad. We should have stayed out of it when we had the chance. We definitely shouldn't go back in, because we were once there.

Yeahbut...there's a lot of money in war.

And look at all the jobs that are being created. Ask Dick Cheney how his Halliburton stock is doing since we went into Iraq...:rolleyes:

This very funny book was written after Gulf War 1, 1991 time frame, but just as relevant today:

http://www.amazon.com/Give-War-Chanc...rds=pj+orourke

In the spirit of his savagely funny and national best-seller Parliament of Wh0res, Give War a Chance is P. J. O'Rourke's number one New York Times best-selling follow-up. O'Rourke runs hilariously amok by tackling the death of Communism, sanctimonious liberals, and America's perennial bad guy Saddam Hussein in a series of classic dispatches from his coverage of the 1991 Gulf War. Here is our most mordant and unnervingly funny political satirist on: Kuwait City after the Gulf War: "It looked like all the worst rock bands in the world had stayed there at the same time." On Saddam Hussein, O'Rourke muses: "He's got chemical weapons filled with ... chemicals. Maybe he's got The Bomb. And missiles that can reach Riyadh, Tel Aviv, Spokane. Stock up on nonperishable foodstuffs. Grab those Diet Coke cans you were supposed to take to the recycling center and fill them up with home heating oil. Bury the Hummel figurines in the yard. We're all going to die. Details at eleven."

Ferd149 06-15-2014 07:46 AM

This


Originally Posted by DeadStick (Post 1663959)
http://www.ibhistorytopics.com/wp-co...-after-wwi.gif


But tell me, which US administration is responsible again for the perpetual Sunni/Shiite/Kurd slaughterhouse? I blame Woodrow Wilson and the League of Nations for caging the mongoose with the cobra. We should impeach that guy ASAP. ;)

Very interesting book written by PM George's (England) granddaughter called "Paris 1919" I got it for the mid-east chapters but it's all good.

T. E. Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia) and an Arab delegation went to Paris with a plan on what to do along tribal and religious lines. But, the Brits and French knew better:rolleyes:

Also, supposedly a great Winston Churchill quote from the 1920s......."The Iraqis are the most ungrateful people on the face of the earth"

Grumble 06-15-2014 09:24 AM

I love all the finger pointing at the last two presidents.

What does it matter? This is the problem NOW and as was pointed out, was going on for a long time prior to anyone on this board ever being born.

Timbo, the crux of the issues over there are way more complicated than what spurred the revolutionary and civil wars (which started in 1775 and 1861 btw).

For those that keep chanting Halliburton... Never saw them over there or in A'stan. Fluor however is a massive company you've never heard of that is running everything over there, and making billions off the US taxpayer in the process.

http://www.fluor.com/pages/default.aspx

JamesNoBrakes 06-15-2014 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 1665138)
This is the problem NOW

How exactly is it a problem for me?

Timbo 06-15-2014 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 1665138)
I love all the finger pointing at the last two presidents.

What does it matter? This is the problem NOW and as was pointed out, was going on for a long time prior to anyone on this board ever being born.

Timbo, the crux of the issues over there are way more complicated than what spurred the revolutionary and civil wars (which started in 1775 and 1861 btw).

For those that keep chanting Halliburton... Never saw them over there or in A'stan. Fluor however is a massive company you've never heard of that is running everything over there, and making billions off the US taxpayer in the process.

Fluor ? Global Engineering Construction Company ? EPC Services


So...what's your solution for their problem, NOW?

Go back in, or stay away and let them sort it out? :rolleyes:

Grumble 06-15-2014 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes (Post 1665155)
How exactly is it a problem for me?

Seriously? Because if oil spikes (massive increase in fuel prices for airlines) and Iran starts pulling the strings of the Iraqi gov't, never mind the price of a barrel of oil spiking... We're talking the complete collapse of the Petrodollar.

Iran is also closely aligned with Russia, see article below.

It's also why Russia is backing the Syrian regime, to prevent a NG pipeline from feeding Europe with ME natural gas and keeping Russia's strong hold on Europe's energy supply.

This is much bigger than just Baghdad falling to ISIS.

Russia Is Doing It ? Russia Is Actually Abandoning The Dollar


Timbo I have no answer for you, and neither has any politician. Which is why we have this mess.

galaxy flyer 06-15-2014 05:14 PM

Nuke 'me all, let Allah sort it out! He'll run out of virgins quickly.

GF

Grumble 06-15-2014 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by galaxy flyer (Post 1665345)
Nuke 'me all, let Allah sort it out! He'll run out of virgins quickly.

GF

http://www.jaredclossen.com/images/370__72virgins2.jpg


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