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atpcliff 06-18-2014 04:51 PM

Nice Iraqi girl story.
Too many haters in the world.
99% of the people on earth want to live their lives in peace.
It's the 1%(the OTHER 1%) that are interested in violence and subjugation.

When different peoples meet, they often realize how similar they are.

Mark Twain:

Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely...

brianb 06-18-2014 05:50 PM

That's why that 1% needs to be neutralized or things will never change for the long term betterment of us all.

jungle 06-18-2014 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by brianb (Post 1667458)
That's why that 1% needs to be neutralized or things will never change for the long term betterment of us all.

The funny thing is, all of us in the US on the world stage are the 1%.

Do you now call for your own neutralization?

Long term all of us need to be treated equally, not embroiled in a contest of race, religion, class warfare or any other distraction.

80ktsClamp 06-18-2014 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by jungle (Post 1667475)
The funny thing is, all of us in the US on the world stage are the 1%.

Do you now call for your own neutralization?

Long term all of us need to be treated equally, not embroiled in a contest of race, religion, class warfare or any other distraction.

Are we? We may be one of many certain 1%'s, but the 1% mentioned was the groups that go running into coffee shops with c-4 strapped to them.

Agreed with the latter.

jungle 06-19-2014 02:59 AM

Violence and Subjugation
 
It is part of the glue that holds all States together, in fact all States demand a monopoly on violence and subjugation.

We happen to be very good at it, we are capable of extremely violent responses to people who threaten that monopoly.
This is vital to survival of the state and the individual.

None of us like it when that monopoly is threatened.

Like it or not, war, violence and terror are part of what we are-possibly one of the biggest parts.
It pays to be good at it.

One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter, at times it is easy to sort the bad guy out, other times it may not be so clear cut.
Best to avoid it all if you can, but if you can't it is best to go all in.

Timbo 06-19-2014 03:23 AM

For some reason, when I woke this morning, this song popped into my head:

Country Joe Mcdonald at Woodstock - YouTube

Must be from all the TV coverage of the Iraq debate (1, 2, 3 what are we fighting for? And the go back in/stay out debate ).

But just change "Viet Nam" to "Iraq", and you'll see not much has changed (other than the hair styles!) since 1969.

You youngsters look closely, you may see your parents in the crowd!

jungle 06-19-2014 03:27 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1667611)
For some reason, when I woke this morning, this song popped into my head:

Country Joe Mcdonald at Woodstock - YouTube

Must be from all the TV coverage of the Iraq debate (go in/stay out) lately.

But just change "Viet Nam" to "Iraq", and you'll see not much has changed (other than the hair styles!) since 1970.

You youngsters look closely, you may see your parents in the crowd!

Not much has changed in a few thousand years, but we have gotten a lot better at fighting. The dithering hasn't improved much.

brianb 06-19-2014 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by jungle (Post 1667475)
The funny thing is, all of us in the US on the world stage are the 1%.

Do you now call for your own neutralization?

Long term all of us need to be treated equally, not embroiled in a contest of race, religion, class warfare or any other distraction.

You may think the good ole USA is the 1% of the world but I bet that there are several million folks who live in this country that would disagree with that thought. It seems you and I have a different viewpoint as to who the 1% actually are in this world.

jungle 06-19-2014 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by brianb (Post 1667693)
You may think the good ole USA is the 1% of the world but I bet that there are several million folks who live in this country that would disagree with that thought. It seems you and I have a different viewpoint as to who the 1% actually are in this world.

Ok, could you tell us which group of hairy guys with AKs we are backing and why? The shy sensitive and caring ones or the mean old 1%ers?

Or could it be(gasp!) both groups?

In all of the confusion my scorecard got lost.

badflaps 06-19-2014 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by jungle (Post 1667696)
Ok, could you tell us which group of hairy guys with AKs we are backing and why? The shy sensitive and caring ones or the mean old 1%ers?

Or could it be(gasp!) both groups?

In all of the confusion my scorecard got lost.

It would be the guys with a couple of dozen walking beams in their backyard.


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