Originally Posted by Winged Wheeler

To join a discussion about plutocracy, and then to complain about including government in that discussion, seems not very well informed.

WW

Originally Posted by jungle

Who rigged the system and why? Is it tinfoil time again? What is it you think they took from you? Try to be honest and tell us in your own words which plutocrat took your money and why.

Don't you understand Plutocrats very much want to keep the economy growing, most of your Cessna cost is wrapped up in Liability-paying lawyers to keep fools off their back.


Let us try this one more time, it is a very simple question:

What is your greatest expense every year and what does it buy you, do you have any choice at all about this expense? The answer is right there on your W2, it has its own line, but that is only part of the story.

Hint:Plutocrats have never forced you to buy anything.

Now just answer the simple question and stop with the tinfoil antics. The answer is right in front of you printed in black and white, no need for mysterious mumbojumbo about secret clans of plutocrats trying to wreck the economy they depend on. They depend on that economy, let that sink in and then try to make sense.

Originally Posted by 8ballfreight

Dude, do you even google?

"Unlike systems such as democracy, capitalism, socialism or anarchism, plutocracy is not rooted in an established political philosophy. "

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Originally Posted by tomgoodman

Pitchfork Marches tend to fall apart when participants notice that their neighbor has a better pitchfork. If they are unaware of this fork maldistribution, the plutocrats will point it out, then watch the fight.

Originally Posted by FoxHunter

Jungle, I don't get a W2 anymore. No secret clans of plutocrats, but a large group of well paid lobbyists that have changed the laws to benefit the few at the expense of many. Curious Jungle, do you earn a living wage, or do you still live in your mothers basement? Really Jungle just tell me it is just fine that(if you in fact receive a living wage) the person earning $2,000,000 a week pays a lower tax rate than you. The fact that the bankruptcy laws were changed by the 1978 Congress to allow current management to remain. That has worked out just great for the employees of a large number of Corporations. Then we have the 401k plans that were voted into law the same year. What was meant as a favor by a New York Congressman to provide a tax shelter for profit sharing plans for senior executives at Xerox and Kodak became the vehicle to eliminate pensions.

Originally Posted by Winged Wheeler

Fuel costs. Zoning by local governments. Airport closures. Government taxes and fees. Ubiquity of airline seats. Automobile safety and efficiency improvements/dollar vs the same in GA aircraft. FAA regulatory burden. Tort claims.

That is all in can think of off the top of my head--I am sure there are others.

WW

Originally Posted by jungle

Poor Foxhunter, you don't yet understand you will always lose on arguments based purely on emotion and the strawmen which dominate your little mind.

Thanks for the humor.

Originally Posted by FoxHunter

That may explain about 10%. The other 90% is that people no longer have the income. Since most households have two income today and they had one when airplane sales were strong shows how bad things have gotten. Then you add in the top income tax rate was over 90% until 1963 and no less that 70% until 1981.

Originally Posted by FoxHunter

Poor Jungle, seeing emotion where there is none. Some day you my understand.