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Old 12-06-2016, 06:38 PM
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Put it this way...

The USS Gerald R. Ford, America's newest aircraft carrier, is coming in at approx. $12 billion, plus another $4b in R&D. Call it $16 billion altogether.

If you want to believe liberal hysteria and outrage here you have to be stupid AND gullible enough to believe that 2 new AF1s are worth 1/4th of the cost of the USA's newest aircraft carrier...

2 planes = 1 carrier

...which helps explain why no liberal has had the intelligence (much less the guts) to call the Obama administration out for more than doubling the nation's debt in just 8 years by spending MORE than ALL the combined administrations in US history prior to his.

Needless to say, these are the same idiotic rocket-scientists who voters have sent back to the political fringe, where they come from to begin with.
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If only he wasn't an exaggerator.
I really believe him this time.
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Put it this way...

The USS Gerald R. Ford, America's newest aircraft carrier, is coming in at approx. $12 billion, plus another $4b in R&D. Call it $16 billion altogether.

If you want to believe liberal hysteria and outrage here you have to be stupid AND gullible enough to believe that 2 new AF1s are worth 1/4th of the cost of the USA's newest aircraft carrier...

2 planes = 1 carrier

...which helps explain why no liberal has had the intelligence (much less the guts) to call the Obama administration out for more than doubling the nation's debt in just 8 years by spending MORE than ALL the combined administrations in US history prior to his.

Needless to say, these are the same idiotic rocket-scientists who voters have sent back to the political fringe, where they come from to begin with.

Keep going! Your frothy nonsense is pure entertainment gold!
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Keep going! Your frothy nonsense is pure entertainment gold!
lulz

Just curious...what part do you consider nonsense?
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As a nation, we will have the best tweets.
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Melting snowflakes everywhere, and it's only the beginning of Dec.

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lulz

Just curious...what part do you consider nonsense?
You side stepping R&D costs.

Try this; buy 2 747-800's on the cheap and have the Air Force convert them. Which procurement do you suppose will cost more?

If one-offs weren't costed primarily on R&D expense we'd all be driving Formula One cars to work.

Carry on with your rants.
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If only he wasn't an exaggerator.
I really believe him this time.
As usual he is telling the truth, but those with an axe to grind, got to grind. The GAO says at least 3.8 billion by 2020 for two jets that won't be operational until 2024. Let us know what the daily show says the real number is.
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While Trump is probably correct that there is a lot of waste/fraud/abuse in the final price tag, Boeing is milking it, but he probably should have gone about addressing this in a manner different than what he did.
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You side stepping R&D costs.

Try this; buy 2 747-800's on the cheap and have the Air Force convert them. Which procurement do you suppose will cost more?

If one-offs weren't costed primarily on R&D expense we'd all be driving Formula One cars to work.

Carry on with your rants.


You are side-stepping rational argument, not frothy nonsense.

Try this; we're still using B-52s , the last of which was produced in 1962! They just keep getting the electronics upgrades they need and are already shielded for nuclear blasts, etc. Oh yeah, they are Boeing products, too.

AF1 R&D.....for what, exactly? What needs to be researched and developed for AF1 that hasn't been already R&D'd for an airplane that has already been developed and is in production?

More importantly, explain to us how Boeing isn't using this to add a lot of cream and sugar to their bottom line.

Oh and btw.....Obama did this same thing with Sikorsky helicopters when he was the incoming POTUS. In an almost identical circumstance, there was already a gov't contract with Sikorsky for new presidential helicopters that Obama thought was too expensive (ironic in several ways).
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