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Old 12-17-2021, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TimetoClimb View Post
just doing some napkin math here, cheaper to overnight a couple crews than fly all the FFODs out of HNL with terrible load factors
that would be 2 crews of 5 for each outerisland layover. That’s 40 for pilots and flight attendants. Not to mention the added ground staffing (MX, cleaners, ground transportation, etc.). I’m just wondering what the breakeven point is. Those early flights out of HNL weren’t completely empty precovid. Seems like the number crunchers are missing something. Not to mention the increase in fatigue/sick calls as a result of these terrible pairings.
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Old 12-17-2021, 10:42 PM
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that would be 2 crews of 5 for each outerisland layover. That’s 40 for pilots and flight attendants. Not to mention the added ground staffing (MX, cleaners, ground transportation, etc.). I’m just wondering what the breakeven point is. Those early flights out of HNL weren’t completely empty precovid. Seems like the number crunchers are missing something. Not to mention the increase in fatigue/sick calls as a result of these terrible pairings.
Seems like continuous duty overnights would cost less for the company
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Old 12-18-2021, 01:06 AM
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More so than it’s ever been…….. unless you’re from here it’s only a financially crippling stepping stone.
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Old 12-18-2021, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ihateaviation View Post
Seems like continuous duty overnights would cost less for the company
true but they would credit 7-8 hrs with that duty rig. Saves money on hotels but not wages. Could be a win win
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Old 12-21-2021, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Rama View Post
Good question.
Management said it was to compete with SWA early departures form the outer islands to HNL.
In reality, SWA has cut back their interisland schedule quite a bit to concentrate on direct neighbor island flights. Hawaiian still has more overnight pairings for the interisland trips than normal day trips and of course crickets from management.

SWA interisland schedule has been back to pre-covid frequency for many months, and hasn't changed.

HNL- LIH/KOA/ITO 4 RT daily
HNL-OGG 6 RT daily
KOA-OGG 1 RT daily
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Old 02-20-2022, 05:27 PM
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What’s new at Hawaiian? How often are new hire classes being run? Update on the 787 entering service?
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Old 03-21-2022, 07:38 AM
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Curious as to the training footprint? Time frames? Ground and SIMS?
AQP training?
Systems Validation? Ground Validation?
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A couple trips w/ LCA after training or?
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Old 03-28-2022, 03:56 AM
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How long does it typically take NHs to go from reserves to line holder in any of the airframes? And is QoL about the same right now for reserves and line holders? Heard HAL is a little short staffed on pilots at the moment, thus pilots are getting worked more than usual.
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