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09-24-2024 | 09:16 AM
  #651  
Quote: Is this a deal breaker? Seems like it would take up all the room in the overhead for the other people in that row.
I think he meant cargo bin, not overhead bin. Nobody is bringing 12 foot surfboards into the overhead on the 717 lol.
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09-24-2024 | 09:21 AM
  #652  
Word on the street is that the LEAP engines need to be cold-soaked for operational longevity (I'm not an engineer, I'm just repeating what I've heard), and the Embraers are kind of in the same category. I know there are some straight wing 900s available. They would actually work pretty well, although you guys will hate the comm radios.

Edit: And a 9' longboard would fit easily in the cargo pits.
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09-24-2024 | 10:46 AM
  #653  
Quote: I think the intent of the post is that surfboards are a pretty common thing as checked baggage for interisland travel. If the airplane can’t accommodate the oversized surfboard then a lot of pax will fly on other airlines (Southwest). I would agree that switching to regional jets isn’t a good option for many reasons. One of them being the cargo space requirements (we fly a lot of cargo on our pax planes). Some variation of a 737 is probably going to be the replacement once the 717 goes to the big desert in the sky.
Cargo is a very valid reason to not fly RJ's. Compared to NB's, they have almost no cargo capacity, other than checked bags.

So given that I'd guess 717's linger until MAX7's are available. Since AS is mandated to retain inter-island service, they'll probably want to make money at it.

Maybe MAX8's, but AS seems to have an inside track on 737 deliveries so I'm sure they can convert orders between 8 and 7, or maybe even adopt delivery slots abandonded by other carriers (pretty sure that's already happened recently).
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09-24-2024 | 11:38 AM
  #654  
Quote: Cargo is a very valid reason to not fly RJ's. Compared to NB's, they have almost no cargo capacity, other than checked bags.

So given that I'd guess 717's linger until MAX7's are available. Since AS is mandated to retain inter-island service, they'll probably want to make money at it.

Maybe MAX8's, but AS seems to have an inside track on 737 deliveries so I'm sure they can convert orders between 8 and 7, or maybe even adopt delivery slots abandonded by other carriers (pretty sure that's already happened recently).
I think the 7s are a pipe dream, the 8s have proven they can go everywhere the 700s used to, and they are far more flexible. In my opinion 7s make sense if you’re going to cattle car them a la Southwest and Ryan. Who knows though, I’d be pleasantly surprised and not unhappy to see the here.
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09-24-2024 | 12:18 PM
  #655  
Quote: I think the 7s are a pipe dream, the 8s have proven they can go everywhere the 700s used to, and they are far more flexible. In my opinion 7s make sense if you’re going to cattle car them a la Southwest and Ryan. Who knows though, I’d be pleasantly surprised and not unhappy to see the here.
Assuming equal production availability, it will come down to economics, which is variable depending on the mission. Lots of number crunching needed, far more than we could do on web forums.

In some cases it can make sense to operate a larger airframe below full capacity, even though it costs more up front and burns more gas, just to have the ASM's during lucrative peak travel periods. Again, lots of numbers to crunch.
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09-24-2024 | 03:32 PM
  #656  
Quote: Scope doesn't cover Lanai and Molokai. The small jet or whatever could fly those islands.
If the ATR42 wasn't profitable, the Ejet definitely won't be. We have no reason resume service to either of those islands without some kind of government subsidy.
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09-24-2024 | 03:55 PM
  #657  
Quote: Assuming equal production availability, it will come down to economics, which is variable depending on the mission. Lots of number crunching needed, far more than we could do on web forums.

In some cases it can make sense to operate a larger airframe below full capacity, even though it costs more up front and burns more gas, just to have the ASM's during lucrative peak travel periods. Again, lots of numbers to crunch.
Yes, everything we are doing here is just a WAG. I’m just basing my opinion on what I’ve seen in the Arctic, which I think is similar to inter-island. Time will tell of course.
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09-24-2024 | 09:46 PM
  #658  
Quote: If the ATR42 wasn't profitable, the Ejet definitely won't be. We have no reason resume service to either of those islands without some kind of government subsidy.
Yeah but that was the same management that cant make money with 321s/330s/787s either
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09-24-2024 | 10:21 PM
  #659  
MKK and LNY are small airports with not a lot of travelers.
Hawaiian flew a DC-9 into MKK twice a day if I remember correctly. 4500" runway with rising terrrain. Could not do it when S-SW winds were there.
HA looked at doing it with the 717, but modern SMS procedures did not allow it.
Really a small island and airport with not a huge demand. Used to be serviced small aircraft and Island Air Dash-8s.
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09-24-2024 | 11:50 PM
  #660  
Quote: Yeah but that was the same management that cant make money with 321s/330s/787s either
unless Alaska feels like getting some caravans and Pilatus aircraft there is zero chance of making a profit in those communities. The population numbers do not support Jet service or anything bigger than a 19 seat turboprop a few times a day.
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