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Old 11-06-2022 | 10:04 PM
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So I meet the minimum requirements to apply for an FO position at Hawaiian, which has always been one of my top choices for long term career positions. I do have several questions.

1. What equipment do FOs typically start out on (B717 is my assumption).

2. While I have a place on Oahu I currently live on the mainland for my current carrier, does Hawaiian allow commuting? Do they provide housing during training?

3. How long is the upgrade time from FO to CA and from B717 to A330 or A321

Lastly , I am aware that having connections at a major can be helpful in the process of getting hired….anyone looking for a new friend?

Thanks in advance to any answers provided
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Old 11-06-2022 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Imabelieber
So I meet the minimum requirements to apply for an FO position at Hawaiian, which has always been one of my top choices for long term career positions. I do have several questions.

1. What equipment do FOs typically start out on (B717 is my assumption).

2. While I have a place on Oahu I currently live on the mainland for my current carrier, does Hawaiian allow commuting? Do they provide housing during training?

3. How long is the upgrade time from FO to CA and from B717 to A330 or A321

Lastly , I am aware that having connections at a major can be helpful in the process of getting hired….anyone looking for a new friend?

Thanks in advance to any answers provided
All of these questions have previously been answered in other Hawaiian threads. I would think you would look over those before creating a new post if you were all that interested in Hawaiian as you say you are.

1. All aircraft have been available to new hires. 717 is trending towards being the junior aircraft, but I would also expect the Amazon freighters FO position to be going to mostly new hires.

2. we have a commuter clause in our contract and there are a fairly good amount of pilots that commute. Mostly west coast and Vegas commuters. Don’t do it if you get 717. The 330 freighters will be a mainland base.

3. last vacancy had 717 captains at 5 months on property. Expected to be street hire captains next spring. NEO was around 5years. 330 is 10-12 years. NEO and 330 will drop lower with the 330 freighter and 787 vacancy bids.

lastly, No, that’s not how that works.
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Old 11-07-2022 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Imabelieber
So I meet the minimum requirements to apply for an FO position at Hawaiian, which has always been one of my top choices for long term career positions. I do have several questions.

1. What equipment do FOs typically start out on (B717 is my assumption).

2. While I have a place on Oahu I currently live on the mainland for my current carrier, does Hawaiian allow commuting? Do they provide housing during training?

3. How long is the upgrade time from FO to CA and from B717 to A330 or A321

Lastly , I am aware that having connections at a major can be helpful in the process of getting hired….anyone looking for a new friend?

Thanks in advance to any answers provided
for the last question I’ll be you’re friend. Only if you promise me you don’t love Justin Bieber
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Old 11-07-2022 | 07:38 AM
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Old 11-07-2022 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawaii808
All of these questions have previously been answered in other Hawaiian threads. I would think you would look over those before creating a new post if you were all that interested in Hawaiian as you say you are.

1. All aircraft have been available to new hires. 717 is trending towards being the junior aircraft, but I would also expect the Amazon freighters FO position to be going to mostly new hires.

2. we have a commuter clause in our contract and there are a fairly good amount of pilots that commute. Mostly west coast and Vegas commuters. Don’t do it if you get 717. The 330 freighters will be a mainland base.

3. last vacancy had 717 captains at 5 months on property. Expected to be street hire captains next spring. NEO was around 5years. 330 is 10-12 years. NEO and 330 will drop lower with the 330 freighter and 787 vacancy bids.

lastly, No, that’s not how that works.
Thanks for the responses , appreciate your help!
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Old 11-07-2022 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Moonwolf
for the last question I’ll be you’re friend. Only if you promise me you don’t love Justin Bieber
Ha…I thought it was better than heavymetalmover44…
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Old 11-07-2022 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Imabelieber
Thanks for the responses , appreciate your help!
forgot to answer the housing question. Housing is not provided in Honolulu during training. Hotel is provided for training (sim) that is outside of Honolulu. That may change if you are assigned the 330F as HNL would not be your base.
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Old 11-07-2022 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawaii808
forgot to answer the housing question. Housing is not provided in Honolulu during training. Hotel is provided for training (sim) that is outside of Honolulu. That may change if you are assigned the 330F as HNL would not be your base.
Thanks, I have a place in Kailua So should work if I do make it through the hiring process. Thanks again for the info.
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Old 11-09-2022 | 10:17 AM
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Just incase anyone was wondering....Last class of 15 new hires. (3)A330 spots, (5)A321 spots, (5)717 spots
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Old 11-09-2022 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawaii808
forgot to answer the housing question. Housing is not provided in Honolulu during training. Hotel is provided for training (sim) that is outside of Honolulu. That may change if you are assigned the 330F as HNL would not be your base.
this is a good point, interesting, yea if you are assigned 330F FO in Indoc, then the training if in HNL, or elsewhere, ie. Montreal or Miami, hotel would be provided.
it’s gonna get interesting real fast when the bid comes out.
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