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Old 08-30-2008, 12:12 PM
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Hey here is something for RJ drivers in China both CAP and FO, apparently they're hiring for the ERJ145,190, CRJ-200 and Dornier 328
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Mesa will be hiring shortly once they find out how they're going to pay their bills, they'll be able to match those 8 days off as well.
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mesa is looking for a buyer for it's share of their "unprofitable" china operation. Seems jo really is the corrupt business idiot we all know and hate.
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That last requirement is interesting. "No license limitations". I got a EMB-145 type but it has that stupid circling approach-VMC only limitation on it, everyone got that on their type when I was at ExpressJet. They would probably want me to get it removed and I'm not sure how I'd do that without paying for another type ride??
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China CACC will not accept a US license with a circle to land restriction on it. You'll have to go to the sim, spend 15 mins and do a circle to land approach, and have the FAA reissue the license. China will not accept a temp license either. Got to have plastic in hand.
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Originally Posted by JetMonkey View Post
That last requirement is interesting. "No license limitations". I got a EMB-145 type but it has that stupid circling approach-VMC only limitation on it, everyone got that on their type when I was at ExpressJet. They would probably want me to get it removed and I'm not sure how I'd do that without paying for another type ride??

Isn't that an SIC type? I've never seen a PIC Type with a circling restriction on it?
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Old 09-02-2008, 10:13 AM
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Isn't that an SIC type? I've never seen a PIC Type with a circling restriction on it?
Nope, its common in the US to have the cirlcing restriction. Most, if not all 121 carriers do not train to do circle to land.
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Nope, its common in the US to have the cirlcing restriction. Most, if not all 121 carriers do not train to do circle to land.

On jet equipment. Turbo props are another story. MESA -8 crews are trained/approved to circle. I wouldn't doubt that other turbo prop operators are as well.

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China CACC will not accept a US license with a circle to land restriction on it. You'll have to go to the sim, spend 15 mins and do a circle to land approach, and have the FAA reissue the license. China will not accept a temp license either. Got to have plastic in hand.
I have yet to hear a definintve answer on this. If your type was done under an airlines approved training program, you might be able to to get an APD do it on a PC, might.

However, if you are thinking about going to an outside vendor such as FSI, CAE, or ANY other facility, it may be a whole different story all togehter and would entail more than just 15 minutes in the sim. Reason I heard (heard only). Going to an outside facility, they will more than likely train to the manufactorer's SOP procedures, which are not the ones you got your type under. Your type was granted under that specific airlines approved program. Hence, they may be required to train/check MORE than just the circle maneuver to get it removed.

If anybody else knows this be to correct or incorrect, please let us know.

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Many FO's at F9 are getting their circling restriction removed by some of the very generous DE's, when the time comes for their PC/PT. It takes a one hour brief, one practice circle-to-land, and one "real" circle-to-land.
Piece of cake once it's all said and done. Get in touch with someone you know in your training department and see if they can approve it. It's worked great here so far... for many FO's.
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Originally Posted by wxyz View Post
China CACC will not accept a US license with a circle to land restriction on it. You'll have to go to the sim, spend 15 mins and do a circle to land approach, and have the FAA reissue the license. China will not accept a temp license either. Got to have plastic in hand.
Well, the problem with going back into the sim and getting it removed is the fact that I haven't flown the 145 in over four years. I'd probably have to buy some sim time first just to get the feel of it again. Then there's the issue of China wanting you to have currency in the actual plane during the last 12 months as well. You can't win for losing!
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