Frontier Flying Service in Alaska
02-18-2009 | 10:52 AM
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Clearandcold is correct on the flight times.
No DO228s, we wonly do repositioning charters for the BLM, no jumping. That all gets done with the 1900Cs which are our "main" aircraft, our route structure has each one seeing gravel every day. If I remember correctly we did have a D model a while back, but due to certain circumstances, not being as good or a bush plane as the Cs and also it being a single D amongst a bunch of Cs we got rid of it.
No DO228s, we wonly do repositioning charters for the BLM, no jumping. That all gets done with the 1900Cs which are our "main" aircraft, our route structure has each one seeing gravel every day. If I remember correctly we did have a D model a while back, but due to certain circumstances, not being as good or a bush plane as the Cs and also it being a single D amongst a bunch of Cs we got rid of it.
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02-18-2009 | 11:28 AM
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Frontier FOs make more than ERA FOs? I thought they were identical. A few years ago frontier fos made 15 or 16 an hour to start. I'm assuming captians do better at era. Best bet was to fly a navajo for frontier before the hageland merger. I hear both frontier and hageland pilots saying they make less now.
H7 on APC has a payscale of 23,000 to start.
23,000 is how much a 2F FO can make flying 180 days in a year and timing out. Most of us fly much, much, much more than 180 days in a year and most come close to, if not, timing out.
CAs at 2F make 50/hour plus 1.50 each year of seniority. On a time out year they earn 70,000 to start, ERAs best CA pay is on the Dash and that shows 47,500 to start. At 20 year seniority looks like ERA Dash CAs do 79,000, at the 2F rates they'd be making 112,000. Also being in the training depatment can have you break the 100,000 mark by your 5th year.
02-18-2009 | 01:37 PM
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Clearandcold is correct on the flight times.
No DO228s, we wonly do repositioning charters for the BLM, no jumping. That all gets done with the 1900Cs which are our "main" aircraft, our route structure has each one seeing gravel every day. If I remember correctly we did have a D model a while back, but due to certain circumstances, not being as good or a bush plane as the Cs and also it being a single D amongst a bunch of Cs we got rid of it.
No DO228s, we wonly do repositioning charters for the BLM, no jumping. That all gets done with the 1900Cs which are our "main" aircraft, our route structure has each one seeing gravel every day. If I remember correctly we did have a D model a while back, but due to certain circumstances, not being as good or a bush plane as the Cs and also it being a single D amongst a bunch of Cs we got rid of it.
02-18-2009 | 02:19 PM
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I bet the Ds will end up being absorbed into the system on the less demanding routes, pretty much what Era was doing with them, the Ds do alright when its above 0 but supposedly those EFIS's don't do well when it hits -40 in FAI and the slope. Bering's Ds do a lot of Nome - "The Island" and back, so it's a little different than getting sent to tour the slope for a day.
02-18-2009 | 03:13 PM
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C models were cheaper to lease and the extra glass in the cockpit of the D model didn't like the cold as much as the steam gauges of the C's.
Doing those BLM charters was awesome, those guys eat good out in the field and the camp cooks always had a plate for the crews.
But I'm kicked back on the 4th floor of the Hilton now...give and take.
Doing those BLM charters was awesome, those guys eat good out in the field and the camp cooks always had a plate for the crews.
But I'm kicked back on the 4th floor of the Hilton now...give and take.
02-19-2009 | 08:16 AM
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"When you own all of the airlines you can pay the employees whatever you want. It's not like they can quit and go work for the competition."
Good point. And now they'll have the majority of the 121 turboprop market out of ANC as well.
Aviatorhi, thanks for that pay scale. Thats good money. Imagine making over 100k a year by year 5. Can't think of any other regional thats possible. Course you deserve it too.
Good point. And now they'll have the majority of the 121 turboprop market out of ANC as well.
Aviatorhi, thanks for that pay scale. Thats good money. Imagine making over 100k a year by year 5. Can't think of any other regional thats possible. Course you deserve it too.
02-19-2009 | 08:19 PM
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Other thing we're preparing for is the sunset of SFAR 41C, which will end in 2010, after that we can't use the C model on the 121 side, unless we start getting some things going (ie friends in Washington vouching for us).
02-19-2009 | 11:09 PM
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hey aviatorhi, can you pm me your email? i lost pm privilege on this forum due to some whiny pilot. I would like to ask you some questions.
02-20-2009 | 09:21 AM
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Anyone have more information on this?
newsminer.com • Six survive plane crash near Nome
Looks like everyone walked away. I'm guessing it was a C207?
newsminer.com • Six survive plane crash near Nome
Looks like everyone walked away. I'm guessing it was a C207?
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