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Old 07-29-2018, 01:44 PM
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With airlines so sensitive to fuel costs, what does everybody think about the future of the industry and hiring in particular over the next decade given this: https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-oil-industry-recovers-from-a-glut-a-supply-crunch-might-be-looming-1532775605 ?
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With airlines so sensitive to fuel costs, what does everybody think about the future of the industry and hiring in particular over the next decade given this: https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-oil-...ing-1532775605 ?
All of the major/legacy carriers have to hire THOUSANDS just to cover retirements over the next 10-15 years........
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All of the major/legacy carriers have to hire THOUSANDS just to cover retirements over the next 10-15 years........
Yes. And Delta has already hired over 4000 in the previous six.
Southwest has hired over 3000.
Just saying that they could take a break for a few years and not feel tremendous pain.
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Brent at $150 a barrel could put a damper on hiring, also accelerate RJ retirements.

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If there is a hiring slow down, it will snap back pretty hard after the downturn.

Actually the availability of sims can drive the equation... they might keep hiring just to keep the sims churning. They are a bottleneck, and capacity could limit growth or even cause airplanes to be parked if they get too far behind the retirements
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I haven’t seen much mention of raising past 65 lately either. That’s not to say it couldn’t sneek in overnight from the shadows.

I’m content to leave 65 alone, though I’ll roll with any changes. I realize no one has to stay to 65, and medical issues often arise.
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No change to Age 65, never gonna happen


AA hiring ramp up just getting started
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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/16/help...may-apply.html


July 17 2018 article


Need a job? Delta's hiring 8,000 pilots
  • Delta is seeking 8,000 pilots over the next decade.
  • The airline is allowing employees to take leave to train as a pilot.
  • Pilot ranks are thinning due to a federally mandated retirement age for airline pilots of 65.






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United Airlines was not interviewing at the show but was accepting resumes. “I want individuals to get to know United,” said Susan White, senior manager of pilot recruitment, during one of the airline’s information sessions. She wants potential employees to know if the company and its culture will be a good fit for them. “We look at hiring employees first, and then hiring pilots.”


The company had not been growing for several years, White said, but its new leadership is expanding service domestically and restoring service to some airports previously served. “We’re taking larger aircraft into some of those smaller airports,” she added. United is expanding internationally as well.


White showed potential applicants a chart showing United’s projected retirement as pilots reach the mandatory retirement age of 65. “Our retirements haven’t really kicked in,” she said, explaining that they really hit the carrier in 2028. “But it’s climbing until then. Also, this doesn’t include [system] growth.”



Because of that growth, it’s a good time for a pilot to join United or any other major carrier, she said—so that they can establish that all-important seniority number. In 2017, United hired 409 pilots, including 288 “off the street.” The airline plans to host a career fair at its Denver training facility in the September time frame, White said.


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Originally Posted by BarrySeal View Post
No change to Age 65, never gonna happen


AA hiring ramp up just getting started
Law makers will ALL WAYS submit to big money... Here in J-Land ALL the Airlines being short pushed and bingo, GOOD-TO-GO til 68th Birthday by "Law"... However unlike USA sim and medical hoops to jump thru... Never say Never...

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Originally Posted by jpncrjdriver View Post
Law makers will ALL WAYS submit to big money... Here in J-Land ALL the Airlines being short pushed and bingo, GOOD-TO-GO til 68th Birthday by "Law"... However unlike USA sim and medical hoops to jump thru... Never say Never...

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You forget it's cheaper for the airlines to find fresh supply, than pay the 400k+/year captains to fly 3 days a month for 2-3 more years.
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