Avoiding Square Corners
12-04-2013, 04:37 PM
#51
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Originally Posted by Albief15
Avoiding Square Corners…
A short list of some common tasks include:
• Coordinate to get off work or schedule work around the interview. Calling in sick at your current employer is not a recommended technique.
• Arrange travel arrangements to and from the interview
• Acquire any required documentation—driving records, academic transcripts, letters of recommendation, etc.
• Get the appropriate attire—suit, business casual, or uniform as dictated by the interviewing company
• Schedule a simulator if doing any kind of simulator preparation. This can be very difficult as most sims have very high utilization rates and off the street training slots can be hard to schedule
Don’t show up surprised or unprepared for that multi million-dollar moment…
A short list of some common tasks include:
• Coordinate to get off work or schedule work around the interview. Calling in sick at your current employer is not a recommended technique.
• Arrange travel arrangements to and from the interview
• Acquire any required documentation—driving records, academic transcripts, letters of recommendation, etc.
• Get the appropriate attire—suit, business casual, or uniform as dictated by the interviewing company
• Schedule a simulator if doing any kind of simulator preparation. This can be very difficult as most sims have very high utilization rates and off the street training slots can be hard to schedule
Don’t show up surprised or unprepared for that multi million-dollar moment…
Albie (or anyone else with the knowledge), what transcripts are required? College/Grad school, or high school too?
What about books to study? I've seen recommendations for Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators--are there other "must read" books to properly prepare?
Lastly, do you recommend joining a professional organization (OBAP or similar)? Is that a waste of time, or is it an important square to fill?
Sincere thanks for your sage advice!
12-04-2013, 06:37 PM
#52
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Viper,
The books you must read will greatly differ based on your experience and background.
As a military guy like yourself, one book that I *highly* suggest is: Everything Explained for the Professional Pilot (author - Richie Lengel). I've had it now for over a year. Definitely not a left to right, top to bottom type of book -- great scanning book with lots of "top off" GK that you haven't thought about since UPT.
Other threads I have read are from folks just polishing their 11-202V3 stuff, 11-217, etc.
From the guys who I have talked to in my SQ who are with the majors -- there is no reason to go all PhD on L/D Max when you already have all the skill sets the airlines are seeking. They hire personality just as much as aptitude. They mentioned the book I have as well as a current FAR/AIM….
The books you must read will greatly differ based on your experience and background.
As a military guy like yourself, one book that I *highly* suggest is: Everything Explained for the Professional Pilot (author - Richie Lengel). I've had it now for over a year. Definitely not a left to right, top to bottom type of book -- great scanning book with lots of "top off" GK that you haven't thought about since UPT.
Other threads I have read are from folks just polishing their 11-202V3 stuff, 11-217, etc.
From the guys who I have talked to in my SQ who are with the majors -- there is no reason to go all PhD on L/D Max when you already have all the skill sets the airlines are seeking. They hire personality just as much as aptitude. They mentioned the book I have as well as a current FAR/AIM….
12-04-2013, 08:13 PM
#53
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Originally Posted by ViperDrvr
Albie (or anyone else with the knowledge), what transcripts are required? College/Grad school, or high school too?
What about books to study? I've seen recommendations for Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators--are there other "must read" books to properly prepare?
Lastly, do you recommend joining a professional organization (OBAP or similar)? Is that a waste of time, or is it an important square to fill?
Sincere thanks for your sage advice!
What about books to study? I've seen recommendations for Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators--are there other "must read" books to properly prepare?
Lastly, do you recommend joining a professional organization (OBAP or similar)? Is that a waste of time, or is it an important square to fill?
Sincere thanks for your sage advice!
Books depend on the interview. UAL for instance has zero tech, Delta on the other hand gives you the ATP written all over again. The rest are somewhere in between.
I joined OBAP and WIA, and I'm a run of the mill white guy.
12-06-2013, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ViperDrvr
Albie (or anyone else with the knowledge), what transcripts are required? College/Grad school, or high school too?
What about books to study? I've seen recommendations for Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators--are there other "must read" books to properly prepare?
Lastly, do you recommend joining a professional organization (OBAP or similar)? Is that a waste of time, or is it an important square to fill?
Sincere thanks for your sage advice!
What about books to study? I've seen recommendations for Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators--are there other "must read" books to properly prepare?
Lastly, do you recommend joining a professional organization (OBAP or similar)? Is that a waste of time, or is it an important square to fill?
Sincere thanks for your sage advice!
(Insert obligatory "…had to walk to school in the snow..and LIKED it…" comment here…)
12-07-2013, 05:51 AM
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Thanks, Albie! I'm going to get them, just in case. Better to invest the time now tracking them down, rather than flail at the last minute.
So what is your take on the professional organizations? Are they worth the time/money? Is that a square which, when filled, would bump my application forward in line? Feel free to PM me.
So what is your take on the professional organizations? Are they worth the time/money? Is that a square which, when filled, would bump my application forward in line? Feel free to PM me.
12-07-2013, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ViperDrvr
Thanks, Albie! I'm going to get them, just in case. Better to invest the time now tracking them down, rather than flail at the last minute.
So what is your take on the professional organizations? Are they worth the time/money? Is that a square which, when filled, would bump my application forward in line? Feel free to PM me.
So what is your take on the professional organizations? Are they worth the time/money? Is that a square which, when filled, would bump my application forward in line? Feel free to PM me.
12-07-2013, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
It's not a check in the box, as in join OBAP and move up the stack. It's a networking opportunity, and a good one at that. Look at who attends the OBAP and WIA job fairs.
When you say "look who attends...", I assume you mean the airlines? In other words, a good opportunity to face-to-face with company reps--or am I overlooking something here? I've never been to one of their events, so I really don't know what I'm missing.
Thanks.
12-07-2013, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ViperDrvr
When you say "look who attends...", I assume you mean the airlines? In other words, a good opportunity to face-to-face with company reps--or am I overlooking something here? I've never been to one of their events, so I really don't know what I'm missing.
Thanks.
Thanks.
12-08-2013, 09:31 AM
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Vipr, I had two tickets, but both were approx 10 and 20yrs ago in different states. Attempted to track them down via DMV for both states, but both had no record older than 7 years. I listed them on my apps with as much info as I could remember. A friend of mine recently hired by UAL did the same and had no questions. Hope this helps.
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