1900Driver

does anyone know how to get your ICAO certificates if you have your commercial US certificates?

SWAjet

Your FAA commercial is already an ICAO document. Perhaps you mean a conversion to JAR, the European standard?

Typhoonpilot

This question seems to come up a lot. The U.S. FAA ATP IS an ICAO ATPL. If you are looking to work outside of the United States you will almost definitely need to get a validation based on your FAA certificate. That is usually handled by the company that hires you. It can involve taking one or more written tests and usually a checkride of some kind. You may get a temporary certificate based on your FAA certificate or you may be granted a full license from the country concerned.

What SWAjet is referring to is the JAA certificate. It does you no good unless you have the right to live and work in the European Union. It would usually involve writing 14 exams and a checkride or two. That number can be reduced if you have significant command time in a heavy jet.

Some foreign employers look at the FAA certificate with disdain. If you are looking at employment overseas as a career it might be worth your while to get a JAA member State certificate or perhaps a Canadian or Australian ATPL. That way you won't be discriminted against for having a "Cracker Jack box certificate". Not my words and not my sentiment, but it does exist out there.

There are some schools in Florida that do the JAA certificate. I believe Naples Air Center is one. Try this site for some info on a JAA conversion:
http://www.nacgroundschool.com/


Cheers,


Typhoonpilot

1900Driver

The minimum qualifications we currently require on joining as a Second Officer are as follows:

Age : Commensurate with experience

Licence : ICAO Airline Transport pilot's Licence (ATPL)
(obtained without exemptions)
or
ICAO Commercial Pilot's Licence (CPL) (obtained
without exemptions), with passes in all ATPL
ground examinations

Rating : A valid Multi-Engine Instrument Rating

Experience : A minimum of 1,000 hours on fixed-wing aircraft
(preference will be given to applicants with
turbine or multi-engine experience)

Medical : A current Class One Medical

Language : Fluent spoken & written English

As you do not appear to qualify under the above criteria, we are presently unable to give consideration to your application.




I have everything like english, way over 1000 hours plus turbine time, multi engine instrument, and my regular US commercial multiengine certificate with instrument, but they responded and said I dont meet the requirements? So i figured it must be something with the ICAO deal but I dunno? what do you guys think I should do call it for Cathay Pacific in Hong Kong?

Typhoonpilot

Do you have an ATP ?

Your qustion might best be answered at www.pprune.org Go to the Fragrant Harbour section and ask. You'll get responses from people who are currently working for Cathay and know what their minimum requirements are.


Typhoonpilot

MsFlight

The only other thing I can think of here is that if you do your initial commercial with a 141 school, the certificate will be issued "holder does not meet ICAO requirements" because any 141 syllabus is considered reduced time.

This can be removed once you meet the part 61 mins.