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Rangi 04-22-2016 04:37 PM

Darn, cause Ravn is turing into a 10-20 year upgrade. :(

Those 2000's sure look nice on the ramp, they fun to fly?

ASpilot2be 04-22-2016 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by Rangi (Post 2115015)
Darn, cause Ravn is turing into a 10-20 year upgrade. :(

Those 2000's sure look nice on the ramp, they fun to fly?

That's unfortunate to hear :(

They do look fun. I took the upgrade over moving to the 2000. I wish I could fly it. There still may be room to come over as a street captain, but I highly doubt one could hold Anchorage. If you wanted to commute you could probably get a sweet schedule. If I can find someone to work opposite of me I am working on a 9 on 9 off schedule. You would get 30 hours rest between four day trips.

Panzon 04-22-2016 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by Rangi (Post 2115015)
Darn, cause Ravn is turing into a 10-20 year upgrade. :(

Not sure this is correct. A friend recently upgraded after approximately two years as an FO.

alaskadrifter 04-23-2016 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by Panzon (Post 2115139)
Not sure this is correct. A friend recently upgraded after approximately two years as an FO.

Were they a Hagey transfer?

Rangi 04-24-2016 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by Panzon (Post 2115139)
Not sure this is correct. A friend recently upgraded after approximately two years as an FO.

Most Junior Captain, Ravn master seniority list, 3/16/16

11/17/09

Not sure where said friend works.

Panzon 04-24-2016 11:28 PM


Originally Posted by Rangi (Post 2115993)
Most Junior Captain, Ravn master seniority list, 3/16/16

11/17/09

Not sure where said friend works.

He works as a Dash 8 captain for Corvus. Two years ago he was flying a sled for Hageland.

I ran into a Corvus captain today and asked him his guess at the upgrade time. He said (and I'm paraphrasing here) "Five years and falling." Definitely not 10-20 years.

He said the elimination of the 1900Ds and the absorption of those crews into the Dash 8 stream has slowed down the rate of upgrades, but that affect (sp?) would pass soon.

Northern Light 04-25-2016 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by Panzon (Post 2116070)
He works as a Dash 8 captain for Corvus. Two years ago he was flying a sled for Hageland.

Corvus and Hageland share a Master Seniority List. The years, probably five to seven, he flew a sled in Bethel count. And then he had to fly as a FO another two years to upgrade. So total time to upgrade is at least 7 years on that route.

I ran into a Corvus captain today and asked him his guess at the upgrade time. He said (and I'm paraphrasing here) "Five years and falling." Definitely not 10-20 years.

He said the elimination of the 1900Ds and the absorption of those crews into the Dash 8 stream has slowed down the rate of upgrades, but that affect (sp?) would pass soon.

BS. Believe what you want but don't spread nonsense. I agree with the previous posters estimate. Upgrade was 6 years before shrinking from 12 to 10 planes now. There is only about 45 captain positions, half of them are lifers, retiring at a rate of one per year. The other half has been there for sth. between 10 and 20 years. In the last 9 months 2 captains (two) left for a Alaska. That and the former CP is all the attrition there was on the captain side. And that's because guys and gals who have put in that much time are not leaving for anything less than a major, they are applying to Alaska, FedEx etc. and are willing to wait years and years for their number to come up. No way upgrade time is coming down unless the company expands, but that is not in sight either, talk is cheap though.

northtoak 06-11-2016 02:56 AM


Originally Posted by Northern Light (Post 2116697)
BS. Believe what you want but don't spread nonsense. I agree with the previous posters estimate. Upgrade was 6 years before shrinking from 12 to 10 planes now. There is only about 45 captain positions, half of them are lifers, retiring at a rate of one per year. The other half has been there for sth. between 10 and 20 years. In the last 9 months 2 captains (two) left for a Alaska. That and the former CP is all the attrition there was on the captain side. And that's because guys and gals who have put in that much time are not leaving for anything less than a major, they are applying to Alaska, FedEx etc. and are willing to wait years and years for their number to come up. No way upgrade time is coming down unless the company expands, but that is not in sight either, talk is cheap though.

Thank you! Glad somebody cleared this up because I was going to call BULL on the 2yr comment but I figured I'd see if any other Ravns caught it....

alaskadrifter 06-11-2016 08:52 PM

I couldn't get in the up coming Corvus ground school, it's all 1900 transfers. I think Penair is a good opportunity right now.

northtoak 06-13-2016 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by alaskadrifter (Post 2143705)
I couldn't get in the up coming Corvus ground school, it's all 1900 transfers. I think Penair is a good opportunity right now.

Corvus is hiring for a July 19th class, the last class was mostly tranfers.


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