Brief Horizon Window
12-05-2012, 12:23 PM
#21
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Wow; didn't think they would have a class so soon after the hiring window. Guess things move quick at Horizon... except upgrades.
Any rumors of a class later on down the road this year?
Any rumors of a class later on down the road this year?
12-05-2012, 02:36 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by props4ever
Wow; didn't think they would have a class so soon after the hiring window. Guess things move quick at Horizon... except upgrades.
Any rumors of a class later on down the road this year?
Any rumors of a class later on down the road this year?
12-05-2012, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SurferLucas
55 people applied, only 30-35 people qualified. January 2013 class of 4-6.
Anchorage is happening, summer of 2013 with shuttle service between Anchorage and Fairbanks. 0.1 RNP is happening and yes, those were proving flights. Alaska knows they have to lower costs in the State of Alaska with Southwest/jetBlue entering the market.
What's your source? If its from the Puzzle Palace I would not consider it to be very reliable...
Look for Horizon to order more Q4's if the contract extension passes on the 12th of December.
Anchorage is happening, summer of 2013 with shuttle service between Anchorage and Fairbanks. 0.1 RNP is happening and yes, those were proving flights. Alaska knows they have to lower costs in the State of Alaska with Southwest/jetBlue entering the market.
What's your source? If its from the Puzzle Palace I would not consider it to be very reliable...
Look for Horizon to order more Q4's if the contract extension passes on the 12th of December.
12-05-2012, 05:44 PM
#25
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That was the implication from the chit chat in CQ ground during the 'provided' lunch.
Also, having flown with an ExCo member recently, his person feelings as well.
Not saying its a make or break for the company in the least, more like the company wants fixed cost for the future.
Also, having flown with an ExCo member recently, his person feelings as well.
Not saying its a make or break for the company in the least, more like the company wants fixed cost for the future.
12-05-2012, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by pete2800
I'm aware. Just stating the fact that roughly 50 pilots have left since one year ago.
I agree with this as well. If we go to arbitration, the company will probably just ask to keep the rates the same, and we'd lose out on the couple of good things the LOA has. I'm not a huge fan of long-term contracts, but a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
I agree with this as well. If we go to arbitration, the company will probably just ask to keep the rates the same, and we'd lose out on the couple of good things the LOA has. I'm not a huge fan of long-term contracts, but a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
12-05-2012, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TheTransporter
This is not 100% accurate. 50 people have not left, they just never came back from long term LOA's, voluntary and involuntary furloughs that where told to come back or resign. Your bidding seniority has only improved by 10-15 pilots.
12-06-2012, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by FL410
Do you really think we will get more money in the arbitration? I'm not saying the LOA is great but I would bet a pack of Blue Moon that we would get less money from voting this down and going to arbitration.
And I still owe you and Luke a few from last round.
12-06-2012, 01:31 PM
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Some points on Horizon
Remember that it would take a very large order to bring down the upgrade time to a reasonable amount, and Horizon is not known for explosive growth.
I do not see a large amount of attrition either. Most captains feel very little impetuous to leave.
In a somewhat likely scenaro of an 6-8 aircraft order (which I doubt), combined with the Alaska 30% hiring program, there should be some movement, although lethargic compared to most if not all regionals.
Keep in mind the Alaska FO Hiring program is no guarentee. It has not been used to any great extent thus far only sporatic hiring.
The Starbucks coffee is nice.
Remember that it would take a very large order to bring down the upgrade time to a reasonable amount, and Horizon is not known for explosive growth.
I do not see a large amount of attrition either. Most captains feel very little impetuous to leave.
In a somewhat likely scenaro of an 6-8 aircraft order (which I doubt), combined with the Alaska 30% hiring program, there should be some movement, although lethargic compared to most if not all regionals.
Keep in mind the Alaska FO Hiring program is no guarentee. It has not been used to any great extent thus far only sporatic hiring.
The Starbucks coffee is nice.
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