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Originally Posted by Hidy Ho (Post 2337080)

**NEWS FLASH***

Horizon CEO Dave Campbell announced today that in conjunction with vendors at SeaTac, he has secured a way to dramatically boost pilot pay under the “Work while U Wait” program. CEO Campbell acknowledged that for decades Horizon has had their flight crews wait 2-6hrs many evenings per week between their turns for the day and their last leg out of Seattle. “During this time crews earn $1.80/hr under per diem, while lounging around the airport, and often complaining that they are grossly underutilized.” Says Campbell.

Well not anymore…Campbell has secured temp employment at SeaTac Qdoba at $10/hr for any pilot. Payroll will be seamless, and they don’t need to take off their uniform, just throw on an apron. “Will someone please tell me where in the world you can make 500% more money per hour?” says Campbell. “We never expected our pilots to live off our wages, NEVER, and this opportunity gets them that much closer, plus they get a free burrito, and Horizon saves by not having to pay them per diem when they work at Qdoba!”

Qdoba co-worker, Cindy Snow, a recent GED grad and tenant at Tacoma Narcotics Recovery House says “it’s just so cool to be working with these pilots shoulder-to-shoulder, they’re just so smart with all their training about jets, and here they are working with burritos just like me.” First Officer Kool-Aid says, “I love flying for Alaska Airlines ‘proudly operated by Horizon Air’ and I love working with my co-workers for 5 legs for 4:40 of credit, and now I am making 500% more money than just sitting around in the crew room. Thanks Dave for your superb leadership in building a great future for all of us at Horizon, next time you’re in line at Qdoba I’m going to slip you an extra lump of guacamole!”

LMAO :D

the best post ever ever !

Union and management were back at the table this week, updates soon.

Hi guys and gals. I was wondering if any of you commute from Sac to Sea. Is this a difficult commute. As a newbie on reserve how many days off in a row can you schedule?

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Originally Posted by Citation X (Post 2339496)

Hi guys and gals. I was wondering if any of you commute from Sac to Sea. Is this a difficult commute. As a newbie on reserve how many days off in a row can you schedule?

I fly that route often. It's usually full. I have only ever seen the jumpseat occupied twice. Jumpseat is uncomfortable. I think sitting on a rusty spike would be more comfortable, although I don't want to test that theory.

Right now we use line bid, so your days off are determined your line. Expect 2, rarely 3 days off in a row. Min days off for reserve is 11, or 12 in a 31 day bid. They schedule you for min days off, and sometimes schedule you into your days off.

When we switch to PBS next month, it is whatever PBS scheduler logic will let you get away with. They'll still try to schedule you into your days off.

Thanks Griever......yikes, maybe Skywest would'nt be as harsh. Who knows

Word on the street is Horizon is pulling out of Alaska completely. What is the official reasoning behind it? And what is it really? Lack of pilots already?

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Originally Posted by Beach Pilot (Post 2339649)

Word on the street is Horizon is pulling out of Alaska completely. What is the official reasoning behind it? And what is it really? Lack of pilots already?

I doubt it has to do with lack of pilots with how much money was invested in the Alaska operation I think it's just the Q400 reliability up there. I could be wrong though.

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Originally Posted by Beach Pilot (Post 2339649)

Word on the street is Horizon is pulling out of Alaska completely. What is the official reasoning behind it? And what is it really? Lack of pilots already?

The q400 flying is being reduced by about 50% due to reliability. I'm not sure what you expect when your closest maintenance base is 1000 miles away but someone upstairs thought it would be a great idea. Not due to lack of pilots although I'm sure it didn't help.

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Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2337432)

"Horizon pilots are just a bunch of juvenile delinquents in uniforms," - George Bagley, former QX CEO.

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Bagwan was his name by the pilots in 1984. Named after https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_R...oterror_attack

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Originally Posted by Beach Pilot (Post 2339649)

Word on the street is Horizon is pulling out of Alaska completely. What is the official reasoning behind it? And what is it really? Lack of pilots already?

As Snacky mentioned, lines were reduced by 50% about a month ago. The union and company arrived at a solution to prevent displacement whereby they built lines that included deadheads to the lower 48 to fly trip down there.

Flying up in AL was fine, but coverage down in the lower 48 was needed, so we all ended up with this turd sandwich. It's better than displacement... I guess?

Classes for E175 have been delayed due to a cockup with the sim. I'm sure that excuse is convenient since we still are having issues with staffing Q flying and Alaska air group doesn't want to wind down Q flying until next year (if that happens at all).

Seniority list has grown to approx. 635 warm bodies. We're still short since this time last year. Reserves are still abused relentlessly. Junior manning still happens, and cold-calls on days off are still in effect.