Right now it's going to be set at $15k for the dash and $10k for the jet, and if the company doesn't get the number they want they can raise it to a maximum of $25k.

This is entirely separate from the 20-30k the company has been giving to pilots in university flight schools behind our backs, and will be the subject of upcoming arbitration.

30k! :eek:

Correct. We were really expecting more with this TA, however the company has given away so much money to people who don't even work here they are saying they can't offer us any more improvements because "there's nothing left."

How are the captains feeling about this deal? It would seem if you give all the money to FOs, there is nothing to get the company back to the table to sweeten the pot.

Most don't like it, many will still vote yes though to take the money and the 4.2 min daily degree, and hope the deal isn't good enough and they will come back to the table later. We'll see.

I'm hearing a lot of negativity out there about the new LOA. I think it'll pass but the more I talk to people the more no's I hear. Maybe it won't pass. Any thoughts? Snacky, what are you hearing?

More of the same, I think if it does pass it won't be by a huge margin like the company expects. Wouldn't be surprised if it fails by a small margin either.

OK, I'll bite. I think this TA will pass by a pretty wide margin, at least 75% YES to 25% NO. There'll be the usual 20% of the pilot group that will sit on the sidelines and not bother to vote.

In my opinion, this TA was meant to accomplish two objectives:

(1) Improve FO pay, especially for new FO's on the first and second year scales.

(2) Allow the company to effectively recruit new pilots. This benefits the pilots as well: Less time on reserve and faster movement up the seniority list.

This TA has certain limited objectives. It was NOT meant to be a big cash grab for the senior people, nor was it meant to fix all the problems in the crappy 2016 contract. Every pilot on the contract will get a $15,000 bonus, the newer FO's will get a significant pay raise, and those of us that stay in the Q400 will get a hard minimum daily rig of 4.2 hours. Can you say YES? I did!

We could have won more back from the company. We probably will when this doesn't work the way they hope it does. That's the main argument the no voters have. The jets are ours, they aren't going anywhere, so why not improve some of the sh!tty things we're stuck dealing with now rather than later.

I believe our 5th jet is getting modded in OKC right now.