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hydrostream 01-04-2020 01:53 PM

That was tongue in cheek. Sorry it didn't come across very well :o

I'm a Portland Q400 FO. I'm quite happy down there, but wish Seattle had vacancies and would compare favorably on our side. It's where I was hoping to be based. Either way life is a lot better than the horror stories.

A few of my buddies went through the 2008 years. It did not look fun.

And yeah, legs are short in the Q. What you don't get in hours you make up for in experience, LoL. Personally I love the plane and the flying.

generic1234 01-14-2020 10:58 PM

Comments here would lead one to believe Q400 guys are getting the most hours at PDX. Is that also true for very junior FO's/CA's? Recruiter today said MFR is likely first base for a new hire Q400. Are there limited flying opportunities there? That base seems lit a bit of a punching bag on this forum, but I can't tell why. Any insights are appreciated.

hydrostream 01-15-2020 10:03 PM

Don’t try to predict what’s happening at a base. It changes overnight.

MicrowaveDave 01-18-2020 09:01 AM

Does anyone know what 401 is doing in Sault Saint Marie since December 30th?

hydrostream 01-18-2020 10:58 AM

Nevermind.

Erjpilot90 01-18-2020 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by MicrowaveDave (Post 2959427)
Does anyone know what 401 is doing in Sault Saint Marie since December 30th?

seems odd for sure

Jetlikespeed 01-18-2020 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by MicrowaveDave (Post 2959427)
Does anyone know what 401 is doing in Sault Saint Marie since December 30th?

it had a pretty bad bird strike, wing spar damaged pretty good. Got some MX in pdx and then was sent to YAM to be inspected and repaired further.

MicrowaveDave 01-19-2020 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Jetlikespeed (Post 2959606)
it had a pretty bad bird strike, wing spar damaged pretty good. Got some MX in pdx and then was sent to YAM to be inspected and repaired further.

Is that what happened with 448 and 417 as well? They're both in random places.

Erjpilot90 01-19-2020 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by MicrowaveDave (Post 2960075)
Is that what happened with 448 and 417 as well? They're both in random places.

is that possibly some bombardier repair location?

SurferLucas 01-19-2020 06:55 PM

N417QX was being prepped for sale, and was headed to some random airport in Ontario, last I saw/heard.

N448QX seems to be at YAM, where we send our Q's for C-Checks.

SIUav8er 01-22-2020 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by Erjpilot90 (Post 2959592)
seems odd for sure


No. CYAM has been a heavy mx base for QX for several years. Probably one of the finest mx facilities for the DHC-8

Inferno 01-25-2020 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by SurferLucas (Post 2960248)
N417QX was being prepped for sale, and was headed to some random airport in Ontario, last I saw/heard.

N448QX seems to be at YAM, where we send our Q's for C-Checks.

One was in the hangar at PDX this week and I saw it pulled out on to the ramp two nights ago with the logos painted over or removed. I didn't see it in there last night.

corpjet 02-03-2020 08:39 AM

What kind of 175 are you guys flying, is it the STD the LR or the AR?

WhiteH2O 02-04-2020 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by corpjet (Post 2970178)
what kind of 175 are you guys flying, is it the std the lr or the ar?

erj 170-200 lr

corpjet 02-06-2020 11:34 AM

Thanks for the info

WelcomeAboard 09-27-2020 08:56 AM

Hiring
 
Horizon is hiring flight attendants. Can anyone confirm that horizon is also hiring pilots???

SurferLucas 09-27-2020 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by WelcomeAboard (Post 3136479)
Horizon is hiring flight attendants. Can anyone confirm that horizon is also hiring pilots???

"Possibly" new hires by end of the year, last I heard.

CareerPivot 07-10-2021 11:45 PM

Can you request an airframe before training?
 
If you get CJO from QX, do you typically have the Q or ERJ assigned prior to indoc? Can you wait out for an opening in a class for the airframe you want or do you just get what you get? Thanks for any insight.

hydrostream 07-11-2021 04:46 AM

Your class date will be for one or the other. You'll know ahead of time.

VanDriver 07-11-2021 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by Scottman71 (Post 3261950)
If you get CJO from QX, do you typically have the Q or ERJ assigned prior to indoc? Can you wait out for an opening in a class for the airframe you want or do you just get what you get? Thanks for any insight.

You can choose the airframe and wait for your preference, assuming they are hiring into both.

twdriver 08-12-2021 09:55 AM

July FO Window
 
Just Curious, has QX started calling people for interviews from the July window?

I submitted my application literally with in the hour after the window opened and haven't heard anything beyond generic responses. I have an unrestricted ATP with an E175 type bolstered by hundreds of Ejet hours and used the pandemic slow down to finish my graduate degree. Plus, I took on some primary students after lock down to keep flying part-time (250+ Hours). I was hoping my prior experience and productive use of unemployment might move things along, but so far crickets.

DashAviator 08-12-2021 10:35 AM

Don't worry about it yet. If Horizon had an animal mascot, it would be the Great Pacific Northwest banana slug. By the time they called me for an interview, I'd almost forgotten that I'd applied there. Figure 6-8 weeks.

Last I'd heard, Horizon had over 200 pilots in the "external" pool and around 500 in the Pilot Development Program. I expect hiring to be pretty brisk for the next few months (unless Covid shuts us down again).

BigDawg122 08-31-2021 06:22 PM

Does anybody have new hire numbers? What are the odds of a Joe Schmoe 1500hr CFI getting an interview without having been a part of the pilot dev program?

Cardsfan05 09-04-2021 09:21 AM

What are QX 175 guys and gals crediting on average per month?

nwheloguy 09-04-2021 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by Cardsfan05 (Post 3290388)
What are QX 175 guys and gals crediting on average per month?

85 is a nice round number. Depends on how much you want to fly. Lines are about 83.

MeteorA113 09-07-2021 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by nwheloguy (Post 3290572)
85 is a nice round number. Depends on how much you want to fly. Lines are about 83.


That's with min days off of 12. At 85 you're working pretty hard.

Dill1104 09-07-2021 03:49 PM

Just drop days
 

Originally Posted by MeteorA113 (Post 3291596)
That's with min days off of 12. At 85 you're working pretty hard.

Just drop days and enjoy some QOL

Blip 09-07-2021 04:58 PM

Totally just drop to zero and pick up 300% pay

MrClean 09-30-2021 01:04 PM

Current Conditions at Horizon
 
Looking for any information as I am considering coming to Horizon. Trying to decide which aircraft I would choose. I have a few questions I hope might be answered. QOL on each aircraft? What are the junior bases for each aircraft? How long to hold PDX on either one? Is there any type of commitment for taking the bonus? How long is reserve on each aircraft? What are the upgrade times currently running at? I know it's a sliding window, just trying to get an idea as I have some 121 time in the E175 before COVID.

Thanks for your replies!

TyWebb 10-01-2021 07:54 AM

This place is slow the majority of the time for people seeking info. I would be willing to think most of our pilots don't come on here much as our union has another source of communication that tends to be quite active. I'll try to answer you as best I can. IF you live in Portland I think the Jet would be the area to go, I don't know much about the Q, but the jet as of this summer was trying to get FO's to bid PDX as the numbers of CA's to FO's aligned very well. You should be able to get PDX out of training on the jet. Again, not sure about the Q, but i've always heard PDX is senior for us on that aircraft, but that could just be the CA side.

Bonus: I have no clue, I would email HR or recruiting rep for that info and keep that email to have it in writing. Also, ask how that is paid out because I guarantee it isn't as straightforward as one may think or how recruiting lays it out. Have that in an email in writing as well.

Reserve: Should be pretty quick here shortly as staffing looks to be hurting in the spring/summer timeframe. I can't give you a good answer and I am not sure many could right now, and if you live in base it won't be much of an issue anyway. Best guess, 3-5 months, if that, once the major movement of staffing happens.

Upgrade: I think the regional industry as a whole is going to be the same.... as soon as you get your 1000 hrs 121 you can upgrade. That is based on the current environment and of course, if the economy takes a hit and things halt, then times/availability will vary. Right now, doesn't seem like much is stopping the majors from getting as many as they can as it's a staffing war between them all. Alaska seems to be slow to react and changing our Pathways program (for the better this time) and the big 5 are fighting with each other. FO's are getting hired at the United and American right now without any 121 PIC.

MrClean 10-01-2021 09:29 AM

Reserve
 

Originally Posted by TyWebb (Post 3302753)
This place is slow the majority of the time for people seeking info. I would be willing to think most of our pilots don't come on here much as our union has another source of communication that tends to be quite active. I'll try to answer you as best I can. IF you live in Portland I think the Jet would be the area to go, I don't know much about the Q, but the jet as of this summer was trying to get FO's to bid PDX as the numbers of CA's to FO's aligned very well. You should be able to get PDX out of training on the jet. Again, not sure about the Q, but i've always heard PDX is senior for us on that aircraft, but that could just be the CA side.

Bonus: I have no clue, I would email HR or recruiting rep for that info and keep that email to have it in writing. Also, ask how that is paid out because I guarantee it isn't as straightforward as one may think or how recruiting lays it out. Have that in an email in writing as well.

Reserve: Should be pretty quick here shortly as staffing looks to be hurting in the spring/summer timeframe. I can't give you a good answer and I am not sure many could right now, and if you live in base it won't be much of an issue anyway. Best guess, 3-5 months, if that, once the major movement of staffing happens.

Upgrade: I think the regional industry as a whole is going to be the same.... as soon as you get your 1000 hrs 121 you can upgrade. That is based on the current environment and of course, if the economy takes a hit and things halt, then times/availability will vary. Right now, doesn't seem like much is stopping the majors from getting as many as they can as it's a staffing war between them all. Alaska seems to be slow to react and changing our Pathways program (for the better this time) and the big 5 are fighting with each other. FO's are getting hired at the United and American right now without any 121 PIC.

Thank you TyWebb for the response. I noticed that there wasn't much on Horizon on the forums here, so that clears that up. I live about an hour+ from PDX so that would be ideal. Which brings up another question, what are the different types of reserve and report times for each one?

Jetlikespeed 10-02-2021 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by MrClean (Post 3302800)
Thank you TyWebb for the response. I noticed that there wasn't much on Horizon on the forums here, so that clears that up. I live about an hour+ from PDX so that would be ideal. Which brings up another question, what are the different types of reserve and report times for each one?

airport reseve (where you sit at the airport for 8 hours a day)
short call 2 hour call out (1.5 in Boise and geg and mfr)
long call 12 hour call out
with current staffing and hiring picking up I’d expect to fly on reserve a lot

Duckaduck 10-22-2021 07:31 PM

Looking for Kate
 
How do I reach Kate for help dropping?

b3181981 10-24-2021 09:30 AM

Are interviews currently being conducted in person or virtual?

88002 10-24-2021 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by b3181981 (Post 3313400)
Are interviews currently being conducted in person or virtual?

Phone screening, then in person interview. They fly you in unless you're local.

cactusflyer 10-25-2021 08:18 PM

We found out last week that AAG cut our insurance benefits (specifically, the HSA contribution the company makes) by 17%, which is on top of the 20% cut they did last year.

This happened within 24 hours of AAG bragging how much money they made, so it's nice to see that we can still count on Alaska treating QX like the unloved stepchild to be a rock of stability in the confusing world in which we live.

Turboprop 10-25-2021 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by cactusflyer (Post 3314067)
We found out last week that AAG cut our insurance benefits (specifically, the HSA contribution the company makes) by 17%, which is on top of the 20% cut they did last year.

This happened within 24 hours of AAG bragging how much money they made, so it's nice to see that we can still count on Alaska treating QX like the unloved stepchild to be a rock of stability in the confusing world in which we live.



is this for reals? or just flame bait

DashAviator 10-26-2021 05:35 AM


Originally Posted by Turboprop (Post 3314086)
is this for reals? or just flame bait

Yes, this happened. The union will file a grievance, which will be resolved somewhere around 2029. Our basic medical benefits are actually somewhat O.K., but the dental and vision coverage is poor. Busted a tooth and need a crown? That'll be $500 or so out of pocket. Need glasses to skate through your first-class medical? Plan on $300 - $800. As an FO, my single biggest medical expense was prescription glasses.

VanDriver 10-26-2021 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by Duckaduck (Post 3312922)
How do I reach Kate for help dropping?

Ask on the QX Pilots FB page.

saynotoOO 10-26-2021 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by cactusflyer (Post 3314067)
We found out last week that AAG cut our insurance benefits (specifically, the HSA contribution the company makes) by 17%, which is on top of the 20% cut they did last year.

This happened within 24 hours of AAG bragging how much money they made, so it's nice to see that we can still count on Alaska treating QX like the unloved stepchild to be a rock of stability in the confusing world in which we live.

I'd say since I've been here morale is at an all time low.


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