Anyone read the negotiations update today?
08-30-2017 | 02:01 PM
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Except the last negotiation update from 8/25 there WAS progress.
"The parties spent a portion of the time reviewing TAs and open issues with the mediator. The mediator has a tremendous amount of experience and was able to hit the ground running in assisting the parties. During the week we narrowed our differences on some of the remaining open issues"
Dunno about 320 FOs but 190 FOs are flying little. Bid divisor was min at 70.
Pay is still sh*t.
"The parties spent a portion of the time reviewing TAs and open issues with the mediator. The mediator has a tremendous amount of experience and was able to hit the ground running in assisting the parties. During the week we narrowed our differences on some of the remaining open issues"
Dunno about 320 FOs but 190 FOs are flying little. Bid divisor was min at 70.
Pay is still sh*t.
08-30-2017 | 03:31 PM
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I concur with this. Even over the busy summer months the TLV was the lowest on the 190 JFK FO, meanwhile the 320 guys seemed to average about 10hrs higher. Movement on the 190 in JFK also has been relatively stagnant with 1yr & 3months of seniority netting reserve next month until the next tranch of seat locks expire. Just my observation.
08-30-2017 | 07:29 PM
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I concur with this. Even over the busy summer months the TLV was the lowest on the 190 JFK FO, meanwhile the 320 guys seemed to average about 10hrs higher. Movement on the 190 in JFK also has been relatively stagnant with 1yr & 3months of seniority netting reserve next month until the next tranch of seat locks expire. Just my observation.
08-31-2017 | 01:53 PM
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Excluding reserves, I don't know anyone with a line on the 190 not getting at least 15 days off per month. More like 16-18. Credit in the mid 70s. I have seen more trips lately that are closer in credit to the sh*t 10 hour 3 days but those still seem most prevalent on the 320.
08-31-2017 | 02:44 PM
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Excluding reserves, I don't know anyone with a line on the 190 not getting at least 15 days off per month. More like 16-18. Credit in the mid 70s. I have seen more trips lately that are closer in credit to the sh*t 10 hour 3 days but those still seem most prevalent on the 320.
08-31-2017 | 03:48 PM
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The one easier aspect on the 190 might be new-hire training...not that it means much if you study and put the effort it. Having gone through it a year ago, the Airbus guys seemed a lot more stressed and less likely to be seen downstairs for a beer or two.
08-31-2017 | 04:16 PM
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Coming from the CRJ-200, I thought the 190 was the best thing since sliced bread. I have driving to work and the right seat of the Bus to look forward to in a year so, with the aforementioned statement, I'd say relatively speaking, things are looking up.
(pun notwithstanding)
08-31-2017 | 05:07 PM
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Yup the 190 guys were all at the bar in my class and the bus guys would be going by talking about laws and looking all stressed. I think it's just the "conventional" airplane to airplane vs the Bus and all of its rules. I do wish the 190 would go to better places. Oh and I would much rather have the bus flight deck. But initial training I would say the 190 is a super easy transition.
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