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Old 10-15-2017 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by svergin
It has nothing to do with that. JB would cost United about $10B. It makes no sense. We just acquired 30-40 Airbus from an unknown source (apparently an airline that just went out of business), and an announcement is forthcoming. We went from no new hire classes until March, to 225 new hires needed in November and December alone, including a class of 75 hires on 11/13. UAL/JB would never pass DOJ scrutiny. Also, United wouldn't be ramping up new hires if they were wanting to buy an airline. Buying Spirit, Frontier, Allegiant would make MUCH more sense, if United were to buy any airline.

I'm sorry, but none of the big 4 will be buying JB.
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Old 10-15-2017 | 06:59 AM
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Doubt this would happen because of anti/trust and costs, and just checked messages and again nothing from management asking what I think. But if we merge first beer is on me. Hey is that a squirrel near my pool waterfall?
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Old 10-15-2017 | 09:40 AM
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You can get anything moved through anti-trust. While Sirius/XM waited years for merger approval, millions of dollars spent in the lobby and lawyers, the government approved an Exxon-Mobile merger. Follow the $.

Now, in this administration, they love the DEAL!


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Old 10-15-2017 | 10:19 AM
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I love the APC CEOs who can predict the future and have knowledge of absolutes within the industry. A respected airline analyst lays out a case for Bluenited. Not saying it'll happen, but I am certainly not saying it can't or won't happen. JetBlue was never going to merge. Until it tried. Lots of things in this industry "could never happen" and then do. People who make a lot more money than we do know a lot more about the specifics of any M&A related to their company. That's their lane, they have a lot more data than we do, and outside of their circles, everyone else can just speculate and start/spread (or try to end) rumors, but no one knows.

We are limited within our lane to hope that the chips fall in our favor, that our company makes it until our retirement, and that we can defy odds to not be furloughed/shut down/merged with a loss of seniority throughout the remainder of our careers.

In response to the "we are hiring 1200 so we aren't merging/buying an airline" or whatever the number is, airlines hire up until they furlough. Even in the remote chance UA/B6 merged (or anyone else), hiring would continue to support both operations for a while, until things such as divestiture/routes/fleet were ironed out, which can take years.
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Old 10-15-2017 | 11:01 AM
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You guys are right, none of the big three or four will buy JB. In this market everyone is making money and growing, some more than others, no offense to United, they are trying. Nothing will happen until the market goes to crap again and oil goes up. Then it will be more likely JB buys United after they fall on their face again.
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Old 10-15-2017 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
I love the APC CEOs who can predict the future and have knowledge of absolutes within the industry. A respected airline analyst lays out a case for Bluenited. Not saying it'll happen, but I am certainly not saying it can't or won't happen. JetBlue was never going to merge. Until it tried. Lots of things in this industry "could never happen" and then do. People who make a lot more money than we do know a lot more about the specifics of any M&A related to their company. That's their lane, they have a lot more data than we do, and outside of their circles, everyone else can just speculate and start/spread (or try to end) rumors, but no one knows.

We are limited within our lane to hope that the chips fall in our favor, that our company makes it until our retirement, and that we can defy odds to not be furloughed/shut down/merged with a loss of seniority throughout the remainder of our careers.

In response to the "we are hiring 1200 so we aren't merging/buying an airline" or whatever the number is, airlines hire up until they furlough. Even in the remote chance UA/B6 merged (or anyone else), hiring would continue to support both operations for a while, until things such as divestiture/routes/fleet were ironed out, which can take years.
I heard that Jonathan Ornstein is buying JetBlue so he can be the CEO. That’ll give those Mesa pilots a Career Path Program to JB.
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Old 10-15-2017 | 01:29 PM
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I'm submitting a request for our next A321 to be named Bluenited. Hope I get a Lift award.
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Old 10-16-2017 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueJetDork
Hunter is simply speaking to Jetblue investors and telling them that it is possible.

IOW shareholder value can be found in a merger since value isn't being delivered now.
Possible, but unlikely given United just put out a vacancy for 282 openings, and that we will have 3 more vacancies like this in the next few months. Plus we are apparently getting more 767-300s and A-320s from other airlines, which seem to jive with the bids. Most of those Airbus Captain bids are in EWR, so apparently we are growing there, which we wouldn't do with a JB purchase.

Not saying a JB purchase won't happen, but its even more unlikely now.
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Old 10-16-2017 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by svergin
Possible, but unlikely given United just put out a vacancy for 282 openings, and that we will have 3 more vacancies like this in the next few months. Plus we are apparently getting more 767-300s and A-320s from other airlines, which seem to jive with the bids. Most of those Airbus Captain bids are in EWR, so apparently we are growing there, which we wouldn't do with a JB purchase.

Not saying a JB purchase won't happen, but its even more unlikely now.


So you can relax now
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Old 10-16-2017 | 01:16 PM
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I think this was very much in the works, but my opinion is it appears to have recently fell through.
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