Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2506133)

It's not really about my need for validation, although I can see how the casual observer might see that.

It is primarily about those who said I was "just being negative" and "not informed" and "you don't read your union emails" and "you're wrong, it will be done by summer 2017" and "you're wrong, it will surely be done by end of year 2017" and "#keepsgettingbetter" and "management is negotiating in good faith" and "at least our negotiations isn't going like Spirit's" and "I'll bet we have an agreement before Spirit" and PUKE!

It's about reality and learning, for those that need it...

And there are several who NEED it.

Originally Posted by P-3Bubba (Post 2506154)

More negative vibes come from the company, as they extend their anti-pilot action in preventing MCO mobile billboards. If that’s not a sign of the times then I don’t know what is? Spirit pilots will be crushing pay rates 35%+ great than Jblue. And we get to suck on an email from WC saying “these thing take a long time”. Ok. Cough. Cough. Doesn’t WC know there’s a nasty bout of flu going around?

-Bubs

Originally Posted by django (Post 2506371)

Most of us posting ARE in need of validation. So there.

So the SVP says this things take a long time.... Interesting that a first time and only airline experience ex military pilot would be so aware of collective bargaining time lines.

Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2506136)

I didn't think any of you would own your previous remarks. So predictable.

Originally Posted by Tom a Hawk (Post 2506465)

I don’t know that I said it here, but I never would have thought spirit would have an agreement before us. I thought they had screwed the pooch, and mgmt would be willing turn their backs farther on them. Heck, maybe they did. Maybe the aip is good but not great because of it. Just outside looking in.

I do think we need to avoid a major mess like they had though. We need to continue to follow the mec and step correct in order to have the best negotiating position.

Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2506469)

Yes we do.



Fly SOP.



Don't release to parking brake before you are allowed to.



Write everything up when you become aware of it.



Don't fly fatigued.



Wear your lanyard.



Basically be the opposite of Southerner.